Founder and CEO of Telegram messaging service arrested in France

Good. They shouldn't.

Unencrypted channels are the ones that are easiest to trace, and the easiest ones to successfully base a prosecution on.

The most correct response is to report them to law enforcement. Unencrypted channels make amazingly effective honeypots. It's fairly easy to bust people using unencrypted channels, esp. because people think they're anonymous and safe. It's much, much harder to bust people once they move to .onion sites and the real dark net away from their phone. When you shut down all the easy channels, you push people into areas where it's much harder, almost impossible, to root them out.

So shut down the internet.. FOR THE CHILDREN

It doesn't matter in the slightest.

Making a tool that provides a private communication service literally everyone should have unrestricted access to does not make you an accomplice to anything.

So is the Internet, better go arrest my ISP.

It is but so are phones and computers in general. Same with cars, many crimes require transportation.

As always, there's a lot of nuance which is lost on Lemmy users.

It's a question of exactly what telegram is being used for, what telegram the company can reasonably be aware of, what they've been asked to do, and what they've done.

The Catholic Church abuses kids, so… ban that. Ban adults alone in a room with a child—something could happen. Oh, sometimes they get abuse at school… so, that’s gotta go. Oh no, they get abused on the internet… bye bye internet.

You can’t say “this could be used to abuse a child” because you could abuse a child with a spoon, but I’ll be damned if I’ll eat soup with a fork.

The catch-22 is that it’s impossible to make this tool freely available as-is without also enabling the child abuse.

The catch-22 is that it's impossible to make roads freely available as-is without also enabling road rage.

The lack of implanted radio telemetry devices in our dicks "enables" rape.

Basically, fuck off with that idiotic horseshit.

I'd argue that, while privacy comes at a cost to society, it's an essential building block of democracy.

Unfortunately, we cannot uncover messages of child abusers without also helping uncover messages of opposition leaders, for example.

Also, as our lives move more and more digital, basic expectation of personal privacy online becomes part of comfortable digital living. We all have things we don't want a random dude in the uniform to see, even if there's nothing criminal in there at all.

That said, total digital surveillance is probably gonna cost us more than digital privacy, but government has a lot to gain from it, which is, to my mind, why we have this unpopular thing pushed so hard in the first place. Public is generally very vocal about NOT wanting this.