I'm just excited to be back in the Wild West again -- all of the big players had bumps, at least this one is working to fix them.

That is, if we restart Lemmy every 30 minutes. Else memory will go to 100%

Lemmy has a memory leak? Or, should I say, a "lemmory leak"?

Really appreciate all the time and effort you all put in especially while Lemmy is growing so fast. Couldn't happen without you!

I want this to succeed so badly. I truly feel like it’s going to be sink or swim and will reflect how all enshitification efforts will play out.

Band together now and people see there’s a chance. Fail and we are doomed to corporate greed in every facet of our lives.

Thank you so much for your hard work and for fixing everything tirelessly, so that we can waste some time with posting beans and stuff lol.

Seriously, you're doing a great job <3

i just wanted to thank you for doing your best to fix lemmy.world as soon as possible.

but please, don't feel forced to overwork yourselves. i understand you want to do it soon so more people can move from Reddit, but i wouldn't like that Lemmy software and community developers overwork and feel miserable, as those things are some of the very motives you escaped from Reddit in first place.

in my opinion, it would be nice that we users understand this situation and, if we want lemmy so bad, we actively help with it.

this applies to all lemmy instances and communities, ofc. have a nice day you all! ^^

As a game dev for bigwigs I know all too well about memory leaks, and so very much appreciate your patch notes, updates, and transparency. You're doing great with such fast exponential growth

💙 Thanks for your hard work!

As somebody who flocked to Voat during the height of the Ellen Pao controversy and remembered the site being rendered unusable for whole days at a time from the Reddit Hug of Death, I'm remarkably surprised at how well Lemmy.world has held up. I thought the fediverse would have truly crumbled from this exodus.

This is the level of transparency that most companies should strive for. Ironic that in terms of fixing things, volunteer and passion projects seem to be more on top of issues compared to big companies with hundreds of employees.

What was that? We're going to need more and better hardware soon, and you have a Patreon and a paypal on the sidebar?

Yeah, that sounds pretty reasonable, we can work with that.

Could I get a discord invite? I’m an ex sysadmin with a. Lot of free time

@ruud That is, if we restart Lemmy every 30 minutes. Else memory will go to 100%

Hmm, makes me curious if there is a Lemmy memory leak, or simply that the load wants to stabilize above of the RAM you have? I hope contributions can help you with another 32 GB RAM? Thank you for your work! 🍻

It’s a ton better this afternoon! Thank you!!

Thanks for all of your effort. Even though we are on different instances, it’s important for the Fediverse community that you succeed. You are doing valuable work, and I appreciate it.

The work you're doing is greatly appreciated! It's like you invited half the internet into your house. I feel like I should've brought a cake or something

Huge respect for what you've built here, but it might be worth reaching out to the lemm.ee admin. I only know enough DevOps and cloud hosting to be dangerous, not helpful. But his instance seems stable and scalable. He might be able to offer some insight into the issues here

Of course these performance issues are a bit annoying, but I gotta say that I love these updates and explanations here. Great communication, keep it up, please!

Keep up the good work!

I created an account in lemm.ee until the issues are fixed. Then I will happily go back to my lemmy.world account.

.world is definitely running smoother than when I joined 3 days ago, back then it was impossible to comment and the lag was immense, right now I just have to occasionally reload the page, but that's nothing in comparison.

You guys are doing an amazing work! I'm broke, so here are some coins 🪙🪙🪙🪙 beans 🫘🫘🫘🫘

That is, if we restart Lemmy every 30 minutes. Else memory will go to 100%

who'd have thought memory leaks would be possible in Rust 🤯

(sorry not sorry Rust devs)

Cloud architect here— I’m sure someone’s probably already brought it up, but I’m curious if any cloud native services have been considered to take the place of what I’m sure are wildly expensive server machines. E.g. serve frontends from cloudfront, host the read-side API on Lambda@Edge so you can aggressively and regionally cache API responses, anything other than an SQL for the database — model it in DynamoDB for dirt cheap wicked speed, or Neptune for a graph database that’s more expensive but more featureful. Drop sync jobs for federated connections into SQS, have a lambda process that too, and it will scale as horizontally as you need to clear the queue in reasonable time.

It’s not quite as simple to develop and deploy as docker containers you can throw anywhere, but the massive scale you can achieve with that for fractions of the cost of servers or fargate with that much RAM is pretty great.

Or maybe you already tried/modeled this and discovered it’s terrible for you use case, in which case ignore me ;-)

Please keep working on it, thank you for your effort.

good news, a fix might be in the works: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3482

Thank you for your effort!

I am very forgiving of the bugs I encounter on Lemmy instances because Lemmy is still growing and it's essentially still in beta. I am totally unforgiving of Reddit crashing virtually every day after almost two decades.

System load: The server is roughly at 60% cpu usage and around 25GB RAM usage. (That is, if we restart Lemmy every 30 minutes. Else memory will go to 100%)

Shouldn't we be discussing closing registrations?

The need to restart server every so often to avoid excessive ram usage bit is very interesting to me. This sounds like some issue with memory management. Not necessarily a leak, but maybe something like server keeping unnecessary references so the object cannot be dropped.

Anyway, from my experience Rust developers love debugging such kind of problems. Are Lemmy Devs aware of this issue? And do you publish server usage logs somewhere to look deeper into that?

How can I donate to lemmy.world?

People of lemmy.world should encourage the new users joining up on lemmy.world to other create accounts on other instances instead

Would donations help in the long run? How can we donate?

To all the folks that are worried, don't be. Let me tell you, Mastodon was a wreck when Musk took over Twitter and that all got sorted out within a week or so. The mods and sysadmin are obviously working hard to get things up and running, but growing pains are growing pains. To paraphrase an old adage: "Facebook wasn't built in a day." In the beginning, Zuck and Co literally limited signups to only people with college email accounts and only added universities a few domains at a time... scaling is very difficult, but it's not impossible. The way things are going, Lemmy is going to thrive!

Thank you for everything! Can we donate to cover the costs? If more people throw in $5, we all will benefit. Can Lemmy server scale up without needing RAM exponentially growing with the user number? I hope the system will get better optimized for bigger user base as the time goes on..

It has become way smoother the last few hours. The work you guys from .world and Lemmy's devs have been doing is amazing!

Thanks for giving us all these updates all the time!

Thanks team, love your work! Appreciate the updates and improvements but happy to have this place despite the bugs and quirks :)

I'm very much so okay putting up with hiccups right now. I know things will improve in the future.

Thank you and everyone for all your hard work!

Thanks u/ruud!

How are you managing all of this in addition to having a life outside of Lemmy? This kind of went from 0-60 in a blink.

The good thing about the fediverse is we can sign up on federated servers and still interact with everything on lemmy.world without the errors, then come back to our lemmy.world accounts when everything is smoother

I feel that lemmy runs smoothly the past few hours with very few hiccups and mostly on the upvoting and commenting side. I encountered no issues yet on the loading of the post.

Thank you so much for all your hard work.

I love the community here and am excited to see it grow. Thanks for giving a report, it awesome how invested y'all are and makes me want to stick with this instance even through the hardships. Keep up the good stuff!

I can't imagine how hard it is to rua server that has influx of large users. I Thank you for your hard work to run and maintain this instance. Hope it works out well and future will be a smooth sail.

Its amazing this site hasn't completely melted down yes it sucks trying to use it and having nothing load but the fact that the site has mostly worked when I want to use it and the fact you guys have less than 1% of 1% of reddits resources is mind blowing

Thank you for your hard work! ♥️

The redirects to baseball games glitch is gone. I am unsure if this is because the glitch is fixed or if baseball season is over.

I am sure the stress is unreal, but It is appreciated. You all stepped up when everyone was stepping down (or trying to sellout). I am hopeful this will turn into something great.

Thank you for all of your effort on this. Adjusting to rapid growth is a huge challenge, and we all appreciate the effort you and everyone else is putting in to trying to make this instance run smoothly.

Can anyone give me a link to donate to help out? Ever since discovering lemmy I hardly use reddit and would like to contribute to this community more!

Thanks for the transparent update!

Thanks for the update, you're leading the way for Lemmy.

I was prepared for servers crashing and lagging, but you're keeping things moving thus far, despite receiving 85k new users in a month. Heroic stuff.

Thanks for the transparency and keep up the good work!

Thanks for the transparency, and communication. I think it's always better when the userbase is able to understand what is going on rather than being left in the dark wondering what is going wrong. Keep up the good work, but also be sure you guys get enough rest, and take care of yourselves too.