Blood is blue until exposed to oxygen
Blood is blue until exposed to oxygen
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And now instead of Marge, it’s ChatGPT.
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It uses megawatts of electricity and is somehow wronger.
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I have a gen-z friend who unjokingly does that. He's like "I asked grok if it was true and it confirmed it."
I wish at least he followed up with the logic or sources behind it... but no he was like "grok said so. I asked it." he was dead serious. and I wanted to hit my head into a fucking wall
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Now you are permanently overwhelmed by a tsunami of misinformation spewing out of your addictive phone instead. Progress.
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If you can't find the right information from the internet then skill issue
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Sadly, I gotta disagree. Searching used to be easier, back when search engines prioritized finding useful information. Now they are vehicles for delivering ads and collecting user data.
Google of the early-2000s era was an entirely different site. I used to be able to find almost anything I needed to search for. As far as I’ve seen, there is nothing comparable to that early-Google out there today. (Though I’d be ecstatic to be proven wrong on that!)
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All the people replying to you arguing that you can't trust the internet because of AI and Algorithims... this too is a skill issue. Stop going to Google or MSN or Yahoo There are search engines that don't use algorithms or AI, and others that don't use algorithms and you can turn off the AI.
It also helps to understand WHERE you are getting your information from and use watchdog sites that can tell you if a site is a reputable source or not. Heading over to I'Mright.com isn't going to help you unless you're looking for confirmation bias.
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I would have agreed with you about 15 years ago when everything on the Internet wasn't AI slop, calculated misinformation spread by foreign governments, and white supremacists using memes to spread their ideology.
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Who defines the "right information"? The algorithms? The information conforms to what your peer group is saying is the "right information"? It's consistent with what government agencies are saying?
We really aren't any better off than just believing what aunt Marge said since you can find the exact same thing she said and things the exact opposite and which one you believe is just down to what feels right. It's just believing what aunt Marge said with more steps.
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If you had a question that nobody could answer, you’d go down to the library, open up a drawer with a bunch of note cards in it, look to see if any of the note cards had a word about a concept you wanted to learn about, hope that the card existed, was in the right place, and listed a book that would actually give you the information you wanted.
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Or you wouldn't go through the effort, you'd ask a trusted elder or a friend, they would lie to you, and you'd peddle that misinformation for decades while refusing that you might be wrong. Guess which one was more likely
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The first step would be opening an encyclopedia. A lot of households actually had an encyclopedia on their shelves for this very reason. Something which these "pre-internet" rumination threads always seems to neglect.
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Honestly I only ever knew one household with an encyclopedia set, I’m sure it depends on the location but where I lived that was more of an upper middle class thing.
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I still have an encyclopaedia on my shelf. I have to admit it’s the small edition though.
I also still have a bunch of dictionaries (different languages), and a very outdated atlas.
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You'd ask the librarian about where to find books about stuff and get a 3 hour lecture about the Dewey system
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And also the books surrounding that book
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Always pick a book to the left and one to the right! Is it useful? Likely not, but you’ll never know if you don’t!
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Most people in my life still don't fact check. I'm constantly chasing the truth while the convo runs away full of misinfo
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I honestly have no idea how people can live like that. Yet I see it so often that I'm convinced it's the norm.
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You went to a library and read a couple of encyclopedias.
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I had a fantastic working class education at the local library and our home encyclopedia. I definitely carry around 40 year old random factoids and such just like everybody else, but I still love researching things to this day.
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I remember that one time when I was around eight, a neighbor put the entire 1976 World Book encyclopedia at the end of his driveway. I ran home, grabbed a wheelbarrow and carted that knowledge back to my house. It was about twenty years out of date at the time but still the basic concepts were valid enough that I kept referring to it until I left for university.
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This is actually a pretty interesting topic.
I was born in 1982 and we didn’t get the internet until 1998. Which means I was a kid and teen in a mostly analog world.
Your day to day knowledge was formed by things you were taught in school, the things you saw on the news and the people you were surrounded by. That gave you a fairly broad understanding of the world.
If you really NEEDED a correct answer, you’d use an encyclopedia at school or the library, or any specific book on the topic. But you had to be motivated to do that. And even those resources might be limited in scope or unavailable. My local library in the Netherlands would’ve had some books on US history for example, but you wouldn’t really find say, a biography of Jimmy Carter. So at some point, you’d reach the maximum depth of knowledge to be gained in your particular situation.
The internet really helps us drill down way, WAY deeper than what we could find in the 80’s and 90’s. I can now have in-depth knowledge on the most obscure topic and drill down as far as I want.
It’s unfortunate that a lot of people don’t use the web for that. Or end up actually misinformed because of it.
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My high school in NZ was pretty poor, so even in the early 00s, we still had Cold War-era maps of Europe in textbooks and on the wall, and no access to the internet (computers were taught to us as glorified typewriters). It took until I was older than I care to admit to learn that Czechoslovakia was no longer a thing.
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When I graduated HS, the map on the wall in our history class still had "French West Africa" on it (textbooks were at least more up to date :-)) "French West Africa" hadn't existed for . . . looks it up . . . about a quarter century before then.
Damn, before I was even born!
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My 4th grade science teacher genuinely taught us that "blood is blue before it leaves your body and turns red due to oxidation from contacting the air"
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Even as a kid I thought that was stupid. If blood is blue in the body and only turns red when it touches oxygen, then why is it red in the water?
I was told that's only in the movies. In real life it would be blue.
But then again I got a detention for arguing that the moon is visible during the day. The detention was because I pointed out to the window and said look, and she was embarrassed.
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The answer is obvious, dissolved oxygen in the water--duh!
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Because there's oxygen in water. That's what fish breathe!
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The detention was because … she was embarrassed.
Ohh yes, classic detention for proving the teacher wrong. There’s a depressing amount of teachers who rule by their ego instead of by science. It’s why I now consider my school discipline record as a source of pride instead of shame.
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That's wild to me cos like... We didn't need internet to tell us this was incorrect.
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It's not like it doesn't have some logic to it. Blood carries oxygen throughout the body and then cycles back through the lungs to get more oxygen. So when you look at your arms and see the blue veins we just thought that was obviously the deoxygenated blood returning to the heart.
It made basic sense, so no one was running down to the library to check out a medical textbook to disprove it.
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We had the internet and a handful of us tried to contest it. She said "look at your textbooks, they clearly drew that blood from your arteries"
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This is why encyclopedia salesmen was even a thing.
If you didn't have that, go to a library.
Eventually there was encyclopedia britannica which was basically one of the coolest things you could have for free on your computer in that era.
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Funnily even the usage was pretty similar to doom-browsing Wikipedia:
- pick a volume
- open random page
- read about medieval remedies for mental illnesses
- open another random page
- read about some rare tropical bird
- repeat and rinse
- maybe brag about your tidbit knowledge to your friends later (if you had any)
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Whenever I would ask a question I would be told to go look it up. I was never sure if I was surrounded by people who didn't know anything or if they just wanted to get me out of the house by sending me to the library for a few hours.
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Not mutually exclusive options fwiw 😅
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And there was a friend's older brother or cousin, who said some unbelievable horseshit, you thought was true for many years. And you didn't even ask.
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Joe Rogan
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Actually fucking Joe Rogan is the perfect analogy, he just has random people on that say some stuff to him and he is like damn that's crazy and doesn't even fact check it, and then what he likes he carries forward with him and what he doesn't like hearing just ignores
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That still holds true even with the internet around
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It's better than what we have now though, which is going "I think elephants are actually seals that got lost on the way to the south pole" and then going on the internet and searching until you find exactly what you already believe, and then forming a social group around that, then voting in politicians who think that until that stupid belief becomes mainstream and there are politicians debating in congress whether to invade Kenya to transport all the elephants to Antarctica.
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Its not a coincidence that flat earthers have had their greatest recruitment numbers in the modern era
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Well-fucking-said
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We got misinformed at a much slower rate though. The newspapers could only tell us so many lies at a time.
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Doesn't misinformation involve intent? Aunt Marge probably thought she was right.
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no, thats disinformation. disinformation is willful malicious intent to spread misinformation, knowing that its wrong info in order to achieve a certain result(such as propaganda by russia, or giving wrong intel to an enemy). misinfo is just saying potential info that may or may not be true, and no fact checking, and just ignorant to the info.
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The reporters who propagated lies about WMDs in Iraq or beheaded babies in Israel probably think they're telling the truth or something close.
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aunt Marge has been replaced by AI now
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I remember looking up "dirty" words in the dictionary as a real young one with a gaggle of friends
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Fun fact: You can still order a current print volume of World Book Encyclopedia for the low price of $1,349.00
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My parents got me this set of the Childcraft children’s encyclopaedias when I was like 6? I inhaled those things for knowledge back in the pre-internet days!
Am considering getting one for my own kiddo when they get old enough, but like most things from my childhood - they look to have been discontinued.
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Just print all of Wikipedia
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Honestly surprisingly inexpensive given that about what a set of encyclopedias would cost you 35+ years ago. Not sure about World Book specifically but I know Britannicas were over $1k in 1990 because I remember a door-to-door salesmen trying to sell them to me. Can't imagine anyone other than a library buying these now, and even there they're probably all collecting dust.
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I'm willing to bet it's cheaper than ever, (inflation adjusted)
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I’d buy it if I had it.
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"breakfast is the most important meal of the day!"
https://marketingmadeclear.com/kelloggs-marketing-lie/
tl;dr: it's fucking not.
related: you're not going to 100% die (or even get sick. yes really) if you skip a meal (or even 2), fatass.
edit: i have to add another thing
diamond engagement rings are absolute 100% bullshit, which, as a genXer, i only learned later in life. i wouldn't be adding this if there weren't still way too many people who are completely bamboozled by this fake "tradition" invented solely to make obscenely wealthy people even more obscenely wealthy.
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Regarding to the diamond ring thing: Most "old traditions" or "old traditional things" aren't actually old at all. In most cases, something that has been done for longer than you are alive counts as "old tradition", because we don't experience the past through history books and facts, but through our experience and through what adults told us when we grew up.
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There have definitely been studies linking breakfast to various positive lifestyle outcomes, but that doesn't mean you need 9 grapefruits and 4 bowls of kelloggs flakes. I don't eat breakfast much myself but most of what I've run across has shown that it's beneficial.
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for kids i would agree, it makes sense that it's better to have breakfast than not--their brains and bodies are actively under construction and need all the macros. but for the remaining 60+ years of life, there are studies supporting the notion that breakfast is optional: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-skipping-breakfast-bad#TOC_TITLE_HDR_2 all claims are cited
ultimately everyone should do what they want, but be skeptical of the "you must eat breakfast" claims bombarding everything everywhere, made by industries that have much to gain from everyone eating breakfast, and almost as much to lose from not everyone eating breakfast.
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We only use 10% of our brains.
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Yep. The rebuttal that stuck with me was "We only use 33% of traffic lights."
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Tbf, they might have been right about themselves at the time they thought that.
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My theory is they were sitting at around 5% usage.
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Even that is a common misconception. Our brains are working fully, all the time.
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Our brains are working fully, all the time.
Hey, speak for yourself
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Not if you're MAGA.
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I had people arguing with me about blue blood long after the internet was available to everyone. I wouldn't ever tell them they were stupid, but I would say, "I don't think that's right" and they would usually say they learned it in biology or a science class in high school and I would say, "that still doesn't sound right. We should look that up later when get home to our computers" and then They would look at me like I was the idiot for suggesting they were misinformed in school... because you know... school teachers NEVER misinform their students... like ever 🙄
Speaking of misinforming your students; shout out to Miss O'Leary for saying Russia could Invade Canada with Tanks because we were landlocked during the colder months via the arctic.
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Fuuuuck. I need to have a look online. I still thought that was true.
45 - UK - sometimes acts like an adult. Obviously has a lot of garbage stuck in my brain.
Edit. FUCK. Yup, not blue. Optical illusion.
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Speaking of misinforming your students; shout out to Miss O’Leary for saying Russia could Invade Canada with Tanks because we were landlocked during the colder months via the arctic.
For anyone wondering, no it doesn't freeze over in winter but there are chunks of ice you can hop across that might eventually get you to the firmer ice along the respective shores:
https://angusadventures.com/adventurer-handbook/beringstrait/
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shit I still remember a primary school classmate explaining to me:
one sneeze is from dust
two sneezes in quick succession are from cold
three sneezes in quick succession are from allergiesIt's been 30+ years, someone pls remove this nonsense from my brain 😩
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four sneezes means someone's thinking of you
five sneezes means someone's cutting peppers
six sneezes is anthrax
seven sneezes is the absolute physical maximum-
Eight sneezes is instant death.
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I had a professor that gave a student $100 for reaching 7 sneezes. His previous student record was 6.
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I saw a video of a dog sneezing 30 times in a row
Edit: found it! Glorious video of dogs sneezing https://youtube.com/shorts/4UoFDUbWFHQ
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I've never heard of that, but I've kind of used it for children. If it's winter and you hear you kid sneeze, do not worry. If they sneeze again, they are probably barefoot some something, go check on them. 3 times they are either already sick, or allergies
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People don't imagine what it was like then. It was wild. Wild in a sort of you're all alone all the time, except when you physically is hanging out or at home, and no one knows what's going on. At all. Some people have theories but they are insane. School teaches you things that are compley useless for living right now.
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People made a living selling encyclopedias door to door. Just saying.
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Before there was the Internet there were libraries. Your main reference books were dictionaries for looking up proper definitions of unknown words. Then you had encyclopedias for general topics. To get really specialized you had to consult the Reader's Guide to Periodical Literature. That was an index organized by topic of magazine articles, including scientific ones like Nature. Reference librarians were very helpful in finding specific information in a hurry, and there were some books that couldn't leave the library.
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Your face will not get stuck like that.
It is not illegal to turn on the light in the car while driving.
Bears do not sleep all winter long.
Bats are not blind.
Cinco de Mayo is not Mexican Independence Day.
Searing a steak does not seal in moisture.
Waking a sleepwalker is not dangerous to their health.
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Washing the literal chicken shit off of mushrooms does not make them absorb water.
Seriously, wash your fucking mushrooms.
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It is not illegal to turn on the light in the car while driving.
Wtf is this idea xDD Are you supposed to stop the car at the side of the road to turn on the lights? 😂
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I feel this may be an American thing. Many millennials have a shared experience of being told by our parents that we can't have the dome light on in the car at night because it is illegal. In reality, it reduces visibility on a dark road for the driver so it is a little dangerous to do but certainly not illegal.
I just wanted to play my Gameboy Advance on the drive home!
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Masturbating won’t make you go blind.
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Correct, it makes you grow hair on your palms.
Then when they look at their palms you laugh and make fun of them for masturbating. My grandad got me with that classic.
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This one had me freaking the fuck out as a kid lol
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You won't get cramps if you jump in the pool soon after eating.
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Bats are not blind.
But they may as well be. So many midair collisions cause they're absolutely bonkers flyers
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Thank all the medical and educational texts that chose blue to identify veins returning to the heart with a blue color and arteries away from the heart as red. A simple color choice to differentiate and somehow someone decided that this was the color of blood.
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It doesn't help that some blood vessels close enough to the surface of the skin can appear blue.
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Fair point.
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Now its just some 14 year old from a reddit thread
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red blood is a myth. all the homies have neon purple blood
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According to my color-blind friend, purple isn’t a real color - our blood is actually green.
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sounds like your color-blind friend ain't one of the homies. i'm sorry for your loss
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And don't even ask us where we found porn.
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We got it from Reggie. Don't ask us where Reggie got it
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My biology teacher taught me that peanut oil causes cancer. Can't get that out of my brain 30+ years later.
Encyclopaedia sets were expensive but there were all sorts of things you could subscribe to for facts. My parents subscribed me to an animal fact thing where i got some sheets to collect in a folder every month. I'd read the hell out of it and eagerly wait for the next issue. It allowed me to memorise a lot of information about animals.
I also visited the library a lot more before the internet, and there was also Encarta which died as soon as the internet became mainstream.
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A reminder of https://yourschoolgotwrong.com/
Originally posted by https://lemmy.world/u/MiraLazine -
Develop extreme philosophy that resembles Stoicism, but is actually a really disfunctional version of it, apparently.
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This is the reason a lot of people have got fat, and also died.
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Dad: "I don't want to be in a club that would have me as its member", Karl Marx said that
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My family had a full encyclopedia that they bought one book at a time right around when I was born in the 80s. By the time I was 10 it moved into my bedroom and I'd often stay up too late reading random things.
Downside was that it was already out of date geopolitically by the time I started thinking about politics.
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Lol no that's not true! If you did that, the teacher or the school nerd about this subject would challenge you. He will come to your house, ring your doorbell, and you'll go together to your city library. Unlike the internet, you could not just source some shit some-nobody made up and spread online. You had to prove it with hard-text published sourced papers.
We used to pay higher cost in money, time and effort in order to learn any topic. As a result, once you learn it, you hold it for life, and spread it and proudly challenge others about its truth everywhere you go, which pushes you to seek further.
Each room of our house still has a large bookshelf library. I never left any of the books which I personally bought untouched including those large expensive hard-cover multi-series encylopedias about physics, chemistry, mathetics, history, philosophy, language, geology, politics and everything. I had to read them at least once to learn their topics otherwise I would've lost that money.
Btw I'm not talking about school textbooks; no those we used to burn in celebration at the end of each year's graudation outside the parking lots!
Lol we really grew up in different times-
We used to pay higher cost in money, time and effort in order to learn any topic.
Coughs in crippling student loan debt that no prior generation has ever known
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lmao... not that type of cost! you're right dammit
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Aunt Marge now lives in the Whatsapp family chat.
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There was also that one guy who was 3 years older than you but hanged out with your friend group on occasion and told you things like where kids come from.
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Brainrot so high that i thought it was moon is blue smh
Now instead of your aunt coming at you with misinfo she learned from her aunt, it's your aunt coming at you with misinformation she learned from a russian bot farm.
But at least you can counter it with misinformation from an AI bot :D
I have the opposite problem. My mother doesn't believe anything I tell her and thinks it is misinformation that I've been fed.
Have you ever tried to out crazy the crazy and force them to try to take the reasonable stance? It's cathartic.
Yes and to make it even worse, your aunt back in the day would tell 10 people some BS and maybe 3 would believe her. Not some Russian bot factory spits out BS to 10 million people and a lot more believe it.
Did you spray for Russians under your bed before going to sleep? You really should, and check behind the sofa and in the dryer too. Russians can disguise themselves as Bounce dryer sheets, and the latest Russians can send themselves over Ethernet using the RoE protocol: Russian over Ethernet.
Russia! Quite an imaginary world you live in! Aunts and Russians and bots and misinformation and all these people targeting you! How exciting!
Can I send you my Moral Rearmament and John Birch Society fliers?
https://imgur.com/a/john-birch-society-satire-1965-YkVs2mK
I'm oddly honored that I got a 3 paragraph troll with pictures in response to a comment that was barely even about russia.
GOOD point.
The well documented Russian troll networks simply do not exist.
Yep. The mark of a stupid Westerner is how much they blame Russia for their country's problems (the exception being Ukraine obviously). Meanwhile the US literally has a billion+ dollar anti-China propaganda budget (taxpayer funded) and a decentralized, private network of pro-Israel propagandists backed by the richest people in the country, buying up entire media companies for that purpose.