Germany decides against supporting chat control
Citizen Protest Halts Chat Control; Breyer Celebrates Major Victory for Digital Privacy
...again. If it sounds familiar it's not just you. But they've been back on "undecided" shortly after. Let's hope this is the actual final decision.
You see the German government would really prefer to stay in limbo in a lot of matters. Never decide anything. Never get anything done. Just wait as years pass by. That‘s how we lost world leading solar and robotic technologies to China and that‘s how conservatives run the country. You can expect a lot more back and forth in the coming years. On this matter and many others.
That‘s how we lost world leading solar
"to altmeier sth.: to gleefully smash the thriving beginnings of a key industry of the future in your country at the behest of your wealthy donors and lobbyists, condemning your countrymen to watch from the sidelines while others take the cake for themselves."
I wish. The last government did some good directional policy. For electric cars the German government doing nothing would be rather good. Same story for boilers.
Electric cars
The proponents of Chat Control will use every trick in the book and will not give up easily. We will keep fighting until this proposal is defeated once and for all, and the privacy of our digital lives is secure for everyone.”
How does this "once and for all" part work? Is there a clear, legal path towards preventing a similar proposal from being brought up again and again?
I guess ideally, we should put the right to encrypted communication into law or even into national constitutions. Unlikely to happen though.
Yes, get rid of hierarchies of power.
Italy went to undecided? when? my spam worked?
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/#contact-tool
let's send some more spam
Who should I harass? Not sure who the best person for italy is
i just use the contact tool and spam ~100 emails to half the government
As a Swede, I'm truly ashamed that we shared Ylva Johansson (driving politician for this shit) with the rest of you.
As a Finn, could you also reign in the Swedish Party here? Or, maybe just take them back.
Or just throw them over the water to the east. Can you take care of them?
I hope that this time it’s final and that they won’t just change their minds later.
The fascist oligarchs of surveillance capitalism will keep trying until it passes, or until it becomes political/literal suicide to support it.
Facing a wave of calls and emails from the public...
We did it, Lemmy?
We were the tiniest part in it.
I'm sure that the average Lemmy-User has an much larger influence on the people around them in things like privacy laws in relation to the average internet user, because we tend to hyperfixate and can't shut the fuck up lol
Rare German W.
thank fucking jesus for the krauts
About France ...
According to fightchatcontrol.eu a majority of our MEPs have expressed against the law : from far right to far left. ALL of the others are left as "unknown".
I think it's fair to assume that France is against this law but that our current political mess prevents an official or coordinated response.
I think this is a very important point : I see a lot of hate against our MEPs because fightchatcontrol.eu does not reflect their actual position on this issue.
I'd advise to at least switch France to "undecided" and add a bit of context 🤷
I believe the map is supposed to represent the position of the European commission (who would have voted on it first), not the parliament. Good to hear your MEPs would have likely been against it though.
Oh thanks, that was indeed not clear to me 👍🏼
We have to protest this shit every fucking year and those asshole politicians just keep trying.
We have to fight to get it denied every single time. They have to push it through only once. That's why they keep trying.
..and we keep fighting.
The Czechs got upset at EU-level efforts on gun control --- Czechia has permissive firearm law --- and passed an amendment to Czechia's constitution in 2021 guaranteeing certain firearm rights in Czechia. If the EU passed a directive that conflicted with it after that point without getting Czechs to approve an amendment to their constitution, Czechia would immediately begin violating the directive, which raises the stakes for people who wanted additional restrictions EU-wide.
One imagines that the same tactic could be used in other areas; if one or more EU members prohibited restrictions on end-to-end encryption or the like, it'd create a legal bar that would first need to be undone to create a restriction EU-wide.
That being said, if this sort of hardball tactic gets done too frequently, it'd make it really difficult to legislate at the EU level, because you'd have one state or another creating legal landmines all over.
And any other individual member could still impose their own state-level restrictions on end-to-end encryption in such a scenario --- it'd only create an impediment to EU-wide restrictions.
As the IRA said to Thatcher, you have to get lucky every time, we only have to get lucky once
Classical Athens punished the people who proposed evil laws with fines or way worse. But our enlightened ”democracies” just let this happen without repercussions.
In Athens they also ostracized people the majority didn't like from the polis, which is akin to what was once civil death.
Ancient Greece (and even less Rome, where I was born) are not at all my example of an enlightened society.
The question here is much simpler: Peter Hummelgård, Danish minister of justice and main author of the new proposal, is the man who got the Danish police a customized version of Palantir's Gotham to "fight immigrant gangs".
This is a man who recently said "we must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is everyone's civil liberty to communicate on encrypted messaging services", obviously lapping the peanut butter off Thiel's genitals.
Lobbying needs to be better regulated, but especially people like him and everyone who voted for his party should see our fingers pointing to their faces in real life and online.
That's how you fight this, by publicly shaming people for not grasping the fundamentals of Rights Culture.
It's like Wheel of Time. The Dragon gets reborn again and again fighting "the last battle" forever.
I will proudly do so
For this kind of treasonous shit we really should have lifelong imprisonment back.
Nah, a ban from holding public office would do the trick easily enough.