Fire destroys Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available
NIRS fire destroys government's cloud storage system, no backups available
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/658762
Wow. this is one of the biggest instances of IT incompetence that I've heard of in recent years. Hosting a server farm without remote backups? Sound like the London Magnetic Tape Incident.
The LMTI: One employee was sent to the other end of London with the magnetic backup tapes every day. He got money to take a taxi, but saved it and took the tube. His favourite seat was right above one of the motors, where he sat the bag with the tapes on the floor for the journey. The tapes were just stored at the destination, and not checked in any way. Guess what they learned the first time they had to rely on those tapes?
That's really funny. It's such a specific situation too. Almost like a comedy sketch
Imagine the reaction of the guy when he found out.
Korean government's
South.
(Just in case anybody else isn't a clairvoyant either)
I'll be honest, I assumed it was the South because I would be honestly shocked if the North ever reported anything bad happening to itself.
I figured it had to be south, as north would definitely have backups
Hmm a system that stored government documents caught fire and they have no backups? Hmm, this carries the same energy of registry offices catching fire "spontaneously" in the past.
Always have two backups in different places than the original. If not, the least you can do is have one backup copy. How does the government don't have such thing?
Government people get jobs by schmoozing and making deals, not by merit or skill.
Pournelle's Law always seems relevant.
I have one backup but keep legacy things so that in a massive disaster I still have archives that have some of my important long term type documents. So figure one up to date backup and in a disaster I have stuff from last year.
This is a clear example where 'the cloud' really is a physical place.
What else would it be? What do people think the cloud is?
At least they saved the Internet box. Otherwise, we'll have to bother the elders of the Internet again.
The fire reached Big Ben?
At a sea world??!!
Perhaps contained evidence against the former PM who tried to do a military coup and this is the way of getting rid of it? Perhaps protecting co-conspirators if not the top guy.
Yeah who needs proper DR. it's not like disasters ever happen.
Disaster Recovery Concepts:
Get disaster insurance, wait for failure, collect a big c-suite payout and move to the next company.
Everyone else gets to find new exciting jobs.
My favorite is places that don't want to allocate time or resources to testing disaster recovery.
Even though they historically used to have a great backup system for their historians and government records.
see link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritable_Records_of_the_Joseon_Dynasty
Too slow storage to back up? What a stupid, false reason. I assume nobody works at night. Do something else than full backups and you at least have something. A simple differential update replication would have saved them here.
Or do it by priority. Files that change often or are very important are copied fully often, maybe daily. A differential update of all files could follow daily or who knows weekly. Its the government, they should have money to add more storage, so that shouldn't be the problem. At least some strategy to manage slow speed, instead not having ANY backup its the dumbest thing I've read from governments in a while.
Kein Backup, kein Mitleid!
Weird how there is a rising MAGA party in KR and an aligned former pm who attempted a coup. What a weird coincidence.
It's too bad it wasn't a rain cloud or it would have destroyed the fire and not the other way around
Always backup!!! From the fire, I mean, place your safety first
So this is the "maintenance" the gov services are currently having.
You do know that there's two korean countries, right?
What are you talking about? There's one Korea and half of it is occupied by an imperialist army.
Am I on .world? Why are people downvoting objective reality?
As a sysadmin that's pretty much my worst nightmare. I really feel for those trying to pick the pieces back up again after that.
I feel your pain, but meanwhile I'm laughing. No backups, no fire suppression system, what the fuck are these clowns doing.
Suppressing evidence? Looks like this was a deliberate oversight to later erase data.
Probably data retention safety was overruled earlier by one person.
So, I think the designed erase worked as designed .
You know for a fact that the people doing the largest share of the recovery effort have nothing to do with the decision to have no backups.
...but with the way social/work hierarchies work in SK, it was probably never brought up.
Exactly. How they got there is no consolation to those dealing with it now.
A nice clean start on a fresh install.