Google Calls ICE Agents a Vulnerable Group, Removes ICE-Spotting App ‘Red Dot’
Google Calls ICE Agents a Vulnerable Group, Removes ICE-Spotting App ‘Red Dot’
I think they're less "vulnerable" and more "fragile"
"Afraid of any sort of accountability"
Oh? Are we giving them privacy?
if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear
Yeah, maybe it would be in our interests to make all government communications public access. If it isn't a matter happening outside our borders, have it open. Maybe a classification for certain discussions that requires they be released in a timely manner, and when reviewed by a 3rd party if any information is attempted to be hidden they are immediately removed from their position and an investigation starts as to whether the offense should be criminal.
The timely manner would have to be monitored as in "we are going to performing a drug raid" they get a warrant that allocates them 2 days to have discussions pertaining to that topic, organize and execute it. Then release all communications immediately following. If they don't believe they can perform it in that time they need to submit it in their warrant request as to the reason why, time period, and date the information will be made public.
If we wrote strict laws on it, the judges would be held accountable for giving out warrants brazenly, and the executive branch would be kept in check by such
Federated solutions which can't be stopped, self hosted, and available via Fdroid.
Only real answer.
Until Google revokes publishing privileges for side-loading applications. I think we'll have to go further and get used to making PWAs and regular websites.
side-loading
You mean "installing normally." "Sideloading" is fucking anti-property-rights loaded language.
I can't believe Steve Jobs was right all along.
Allow vendors to completely control what apps run on your phone and banning websites and PWAs becomes trivial for them. Browsers are apps.
Google started using buzzwords of sideloading as to make a boogeyman security issue, to get people to side with them. its just installing, other than thier main store.
They can only do that to phones running gapps
How about web apps or even regular sites with a mobile friendly UI?
Oh no, vulnerable 🥺 they need DEI? They need to be a protected class? 🥺
Surveillance is suddenly wrong when it's the peasants surveiling wannabe samurai? 🥺
Can I just be "that guy" and point out the CEO of Google is "Sundar Puchai"?
Who do you think Trump is coming for, you fucking idiot? It's not guys like me named "David".
I hate this. I hate that they are targeting "minorities", or Hispanics, or Indian folks... But many people in charge who are part of these groups don't even care. They think they are special. You're money doesn't make you immune, you complete goddamn waste of oxygen.
We're trying to fucking help you. Stop condemning fellow human beings for the sake of profits. You are damning your children, and your family. You are selling them for gains. We hate you, and so do your children.
Rich Brahman caste Indians, or similar believe they are the ones most similar to rich white people. At least if you looked into Indian caste system, they are notoriously conservative and probably racist too. Usha, is also part of it
Evil thrives in darkness
They need to be protected alright, with thick concrete walls, iron bars, locks, and guards. Nobody in or out for a few decades oughta keep them nice and safe
The irony is so rich.
To anyone that had doubts about governments putting restrictions on app stores, here is your proof. The level of power the current situation grants this duopoly is excessive and dangerous.
I thought we had all the proof we needed when Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai were snuggling up to Trump at dinners and the inauguration
google had been snuggling up to conservatives for a while, mostly around mid-pandemic, when they removed restrictions on not banning election denial, and then snowballed into right wing propaganda videos plaguing youtube ever since. they are part of the problem, even moreso than APPLE. and google recently made deals WITH ISRAEL to allow thier propaganda to fester the site.
Calling masked, armed, armored thugs and terrorists with a disregard for the law a "vulnerable group" is a bit thick, isn't it?
This practice is by nature anti-competitive. All they're creating is a monopoly covered up by a promise of a walled garden.
As such, this shouldn't even be legal under todays jurisdictions.
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you can
it's also why apps that can be websites should
The agents who implement state violence are not a group. They're agents of the state.
And now Google is directly collaborating with an oppressive autocratic regime.
Curiously, while in character, it's about the stupidest thing companies can do, at least according to Mike Brock
But yes, corporations are notoriously short-sighted when it comes to autocrats, even with a long history of ultimately getting their assets seized by the autocratic regimes they assisted into power.
I'd like to think this all might be a time to teach common end-users the joys of FOSS and, if necessary, jailbreaking, but that's still a big ask for the general public even in the face of abduction and rendition.
Was ever any doubt who corporate America would side with?
Capitalists will align with the devil if it means greater profits. Turns out an economic system catering to the selfishness and greed of the individual is not compatible with democracy.
Someone recommended Kagi in another thread yesterday and that night I finally became 100% google free. Search was the last big hurdle. I was literally the biggest google fanboy. I had google home devices, google wifi, I wanted all their devices, had all their services, everything was set up and integrated. De-googling was fucking hard but I did it and I'm super proud and I've learned so much about how tech works setting up my replacement services and devices. Fuck you Google.
How was search and not the usual maps the hardest? The search is what I feel like most people switch first.
Idk I started using organicmaps (comaps now) long long ago. I guess I don't have a great fundamental understanding of search. Are not most other search engines just hopping on the back of google search engines? I honestly don't know. Its not an area I've spent a lot of time learning about - or maybe I'm just a backwards dude haha.
I had google home devices, google wife, I wanted all their devices
😳
Lmao wife, WiFi, waifu? Where does one begin and one end I don't even know.
Google says a group of masked fascists kidnapping children from their beds is a "vulnerable group".
To be fair, they did set expectations when they got rid of the "don't be evil" moto.
google recently fellated trump and the gop. Google's youtube is pretty instrumental in drawing in more incel men to voting Rs, by platforming right wingers out of context , like kirk,shapiro, fox, ,,,ETC.
Brown shirts were a vulnerable group too!
I wonder why this happened.
Do rich cowards that give other rich assholes fealty often do what their rulers tell them?! 1111?
What a fucking piece of shit.
For the rest of my life I will never forget that Apple and Google went out of their way to defend and protect the Nazi SS of our time.
Absolutely fucking evil and unforgivable.
Not saying this about you necessarily, but the sad part is that there are millions of people who share this feeling, but will still buy the latest iPhone and browse Youtube with it.
If we had a better sense of community, people would be able to form actual boycott movements that have impact, but we've been trained to avoid other others, stay "rugged individuals" and keep our opinions to ourselves lest we face social backlash. This is all deliberate and designed.
Absolutely agreed. This is the last straw for me, I'm degoogling
Agreed. I'm pulling out of Chrome and google search. Their software is shipped with everything now and I wish I could do more. They've been sliding into evil for a long time now.
If you ever want to know why capitalism turns into fascism, look into how many companies willingly and knowingly did business with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.
IBM made computers to help the Holocaust, because the Nazis could pay for the service of the machines to be built.
Google is just a modern IBM.
Fascism is a business choice, always has been. Hitler didn't get popular by himself
Why do that when we can just watch it in real time right now?
This is exactly why sideloading is very very important.
And why it's being removed
yep
For reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
Ah yes... the guys with masks, guns, the backing of the president, and virtually unlimited federal government resources are a "vulnerable group"
Heil Agent Orange 🍊🧡
That's for real men, not Agent Bone Spurs
Fascists.
"Why dont you stupid Americans organize or something?"
They won't let us. We're trying.
Do not let Google escape this, ever. Cancel all payments to them. YouTube Premium, YouTube subscriptions, etc.
Don’t be evil.
They're totally vulnerable! Just aim for the head!
That worked!! 👍
So this could get much more serious if they start clamping down on the comm tools we take for granted. Between this and the incoming sideloading block - all of a sudden the most paranoid fears of Stallman's don't seem nearly as far fetched.
Isn't ICE one of the biggest budget of the US now? How is that vulnerable?
Do we know yet that what ICE is doing even legal? (kidnapping, detaining, etc) I haven't followed closely enough to be sure of that. Does the actual police just sit by and watch?
we know it's not legal, but who's going to do anything about it?
Going into an apartment complex, arresting everyone there including children, including US citizens, without a warrant? That's illegal. But there's nothing you can do about it except sue them afterwards.
Imagine having to warp reality THIS much, just to make it fit your twisted narrative?
“Vulnerable” go fuck yourself with a white-hot steel dildo.
Nope. Our tax dollars pay for their existence. They're not a vulnerable group, they're our employees.
The current trend is workplace surveillance, if they're our employees aren't we supposed to be be tracking their every move and timing their bathroom breaks to the picosecond?
"Hey. Don’t I pay your salary? ... You’re a public servant; get me a glass of water."
RIP George.
Vulnerable my aunts fanny. They aggressively terrorize everywhere they go. Go everywhere armed to the teeth and are not in any way shape or form threatened with anything or anyone that could harm them sufficiently to put them into a threatened category. This is just google telling us whose side they are on
The 1 million dollar question: Would I be able to side load it with the new Google developer registration rules?
lol
Any web based alternatives? App stores aren’t needed here and it’s a lot harder to stop a website.
Goddamn Gestapo
So does this mean Google will also block services that are being used to harm other vulnerable groups, like all the ones being targeted by Snowfla- I mean ICE?
"Don't be evil unless fascism is better option"
Any man with a mask is a threat to me and my immigrant wife. I do not give a fuck if the patch says "POLICE". Here, get one on Amazon, anyone can.
I am armed everywhere I travel past my front yard. I am armed on my shitter. Insane, I know, but that's where America is at. I am on a fucking hair trigger. Course ICE isn't around here, we rednecks are well armed. Funny how that works out.
Another reason is that your fellow rednecks, by and large, are all for this shit.
Google Calls Gestapo Agents a Vulnerable Group, Removes Gestapo-Spotting App ‘Red Dot’
I cannot say how much I Wish this would be the onion..
Poor little guys
Google can F-themselves.
Use !linuxphones@lemmy.ca to boycott fascist enablers.
The moment any real alternative to Apple and the iPhone is viable I will go all in. Fuck them both, please Linux phones come to save us, lol.
Bet everyone keeps on using their google phones though...
Moaning online aint gonna do shit. Not buying their new phones, not using their old phones, will send the message you want to send. Get an old nokia, or a dumb phone, or two cans and piece of string, or no phone. If you think this is action by google is them cosying up to fascists, then you have a duty to harm that company by not giving them money.
They rely on convenience to trap you. Turn your phones off, dont buy the new ones, get dumb replacements if you need to. Fuck apple and fuck google for cosying up to this admins Gestapo bullshit.
One of the founders of Fairphone is working on a European alternative phone OS called Mobifree, which is also open source. Google free Android also already exists.
We need to start eating these scum bags
I’m honestly fine if we just compost them.
landfill, they arnt worthy to be reused as compost, they will just contiminate the soil.
Let them bloat and play pop the richie
You do you I guess
Good puppy dogs doing Dear Leader's bidding. History will remember!
Why does it have to be an app? Why can't it be just a webpage?
Apps have more permissions than webpages in general
Like PWAs exist but apps are supported better in general. And although a web app may work fine for reporting in general, if you want to alert people (I'm not sure if these apps are meant to act like a parallel reverse 911 system) apps do better
Thanks for explaining. With Google putting the squeeze on opensource and sideloaded applications, PWA maybe the way to go for reporting, with an opt-in for text notifications for the "reverse 911."
uwu they are working under very hash conditions to terrorise children and other civilians
"You just uninstalled Chrome We’re sorry to see you go. Please help us improve Google Chrome by filling out this short survey. Your feedback is appreciated." And....no link to any survey provided, so I can't tell them why they can go fuck themselves. I still use Youtube non premium, with an ad blocker, but I'm open to any suggestions for a replacement site.....
PeerTube, but it cant be called an alternative (yet)
Only just discovered it last night, so, not sure what it really has to offer
Next up: Won't anyone think of the abusers? Who's the true victim of domestic violence?
In case anyone is wondering why an international tech giant caves so easily to the US government when the companies that own late night hosts still have them running: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/05/tech/google-eu-antitrust-fine-adtech
Grand Play.
Ew
Yes because, as everyone knows, the real enemies are brown people with funny accents. /s
Vulnerable to Fascism?
Well, I'm sure they wouldn't give encryption keys away.
VulnerableSusceptible