AOC Reportedly Prepping for 2028 Presidential or Senate Run
US Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is gearing up for a potential Senate or presidential run in 2028, igniting excitement among progressives nationwide. #AOC2028
That "or" is doing some serious heavy lifting.
I might buy a new television or an automobile.
I’m writing an 800 page scientific paper on quantum mechanics or I’m taking a shit
Well she certainly has the qualifications! (Being a sell out and a genocide apologist)
You might want to look further into this one, hoss.
The GOP is manipulating you into hating those aligned with your interests.
I am literally a communist, the GOP couldn’t manipulate me into anything. I hate basically all American politicians because they are all servants of imperialism and enemies of the working class. Have fun cheering for
as they sit and do nothing while people get rounded up into camps (this is literally already happening btw not some hyperbolic future)Also, “defensive” funding for Israel is still supporting the genocide. Israel’s belief in its own impunity (thanks to things like the iron dome) gives it confidence to commit endless atrocities because they don’t fear proportional consequences.
Also, Israel shouldn’t be defended. Rogue states that commit genocide have no right to exist as far as I’m concerned.
Good thing money isn't fungible or the distinction between defensive and offensive weapons funding would be meaningless
No, I’m perfectly aware of the GOP hate campaign. But I dislike her for her actions. I want a progressive/socialist. Not a fake progressive.
I agree that the distinction between defensive and offensive aid is little more than a rhetorical trick, but that's a long ways from being a "genocide apologist". To my knowledge, she does not deny that Israel is committing a genocide, and she does not pretend that it's justified. I think it's fair to call Biden a genocide apologist because he actively participated in obfuscating the reality of what was happening and attacking critics.
Foreign policy is complicated, and there is room for someone to think pragmatically that cutting off "defensive aid" will make things worse instead of better. I disagree with that someone, but I'd much rather have them as opposition than someone who is principally in favor of a Genocide.
It’s really not complicated. It’s only complication is concern for aipac money.
Also you’re saying she is aware it’s a genocide and still approved the sale of weapons to a genocidal regime
I agree that the distinction between defensive and offensive aid is little more than a rhetorical trick
If you know what they're doing, and she knows what they're doing, and you know she knows what they're doing, then we should all be fairly clear that she's not absolving herself from complicity.
In the case of the US-Israel relationship, the financials are more complicated than the foreign policy, and there are no consequential earmarks. The input is either more funding, or less funding.
From one approach, if the US funds Israel's Iron Dome, Israel will have more money from not spending their own on defenses, and what they didn't have to spend on defensive weapons, they will then spend on offensive weapons. This chain of causality is fairly direct and reasonable to trace, IMHO. In fact, it's quite possible that they directly route gifts for defensive weapons into offensive weapons- this is Israel we're talking about, they're not known for engaging in good faith.
From a second approach, her vote for Iron Dome spending signals that she is holding out for the chance that both sides will de-escalate willingly, and that a peaceful agreement can be negotiated from current positions. This is wishful thinking.
From a third approach, the only thing we have seen with the potential to end the genocide is intervention by Hezbollah, Ansar Allah, or especially Iran. Any prospect of the US, the EU, or an alliance of Arab states putting an end to the genocide militarily is completely without precedent and infeasible. Israel continues to maim Gaza because its economy is still running, and its economy is still running because it has diplomatic ties and defensive systems. If they are subjected to a large number of missiles, their citizens will be forced to permanently retreat to bomb shelters; this will shut down the economy and persuade Israelis to repatriate to their countries of origin (or Germany and the US will take them), because they are wealthy enough and a large fraction of them have dual citizenship. This is the one thing that will certainly end the genocide, running out their defenses until they are confronted with the same onslaught that they have waged against Palestinians. It's not pretty or peaceful and a few people might die in-between the bomb shelters, but this is how genocides are stopped. The day that Israel runs out of interceptors and the Shahed drones keep flying in is the day they will start negotiating the end of the genocide. Funding defensive missile capacities is simply staving that day off. It is not an intervention that directly kills people, but it is still an American intervention in the Middle East that makes the situation worse and demonstrably causes more innocent people to die.
To be sure, there are several different levels of genocide apologia, and AOC is a few levels down on the scale from your average Republican. But she's still not clearing the bar for ethical foreign policy. The bar is to treat Israel with at least the same level of response that was given to Russia when it invaded/escalated the war in Ukraine.
Will there be elections?
Senate is a safer bet, and Shmucker needs to go.
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Half of them are getting a great tax cut from Trump
Please no president. Senate is ok.
America has shown it can't handle a woman, much less woman of color, much less young, much less progressive. The DNC just needs a straight white man who is decently progressive but appears to be moderate on stuff. All of this to say: Tim Walz please.
Congratulations for scapegoating women rather than addressing any of the other more meaningful commonalities between Clinton and Harris.
People don’t really care about identity politics as much as the politicians do
The sexism even more disgusting when compounded with the hypocrisy: centrists smeared Sanders in 2020 by claiming he said women can't win.
Now that they don't want a particular woman to run, they'll scream that sexist garbage like it's gospel.
I'm talking about the moderate conservatives who hate Trump, and maybe aren't too involved in politics. They are more traditional but would vote for progressive policies if they were packaged correctly. It's a sad state of the country, but with Newsmax and Fox brainwashing people, that's the only winning strategy.
What, as a “government in exile” kind of thing?
In before the delusional naive tell us how she’s going to save the day.
Do people in the US not realise there won’t be any more fair elections? A coup is unfolding by white supremacists and you’re all like “here, look, the brown female chick will right the ship”.
Go to the history section of a library before they burn them down.
Came here to say this. Look prople, Trump bragged that is we elected him, it would be the last time we needed to vote. We need to start believing him when he says things. There will be no 2028 election. Look how much he's already broken, and he has 3 more years to finish breaking our democracy.
There will be elections probably, the same way Russia or North Korea do "elections"
Fuck off doomer.
A point well argued with merit and substance. Perhaps you want to become a master debater?
Elections in the US are never fair. They’re simply a contest of who gets the smartest lawyers and the most funding.
She won't win. The right will never vote for her because they see her as far left, and the far left will never support her because they she's not "pure" enough for them. The only people who will vote for her are people who lean moderately to the left which make up somewhere around 1/3 of voters.
I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see how 'Murica could be ready for a young, progressive, intelligent woman to lead
She is a true powerhouse, but' Murica is a broken, ignorant and hateful place
America rejected Hillary and Kamala because they were empty-suit neolibs who campaigned on ignoring the working class' problems, not because they were women.
I hope you are right
Also, because the voting public is dumb AF. Not actually voting on principle, ideology, or policy. Simply voting against whoever is perceived as in power. If they feel the government isn't helping them. Even if it means voting for someone who will be objectively worse for them.
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And elected Trump twice because he obviously was full-suit man of the people with so many swell ideas about working class.
Americans, you see, are voting based on economical policies rooted in reality.
Honestly, yes.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha Ha HA HA HA. Nobody has ever won an election in this country through the working class, dude.
Yeah that’s a ton of bullshit.
Everyone I know would vote for her.
Same but I live in a bubble
Oh, I get it
I only associate with other people with politics like my own (because conservatives are shitty people who I refuse to have anything to do with)
But I know that outside my bubble, there's a world of selfish, hateful, ignorant cunts
You must live in a dark blue state.
Not exactly. DNC had to do a LOT of fucking around to keep Bernie from the presidentcy. And he would have crushed Trump so badly cheating wouldn't have worked. I had hoped they would run AOC instead of Kamala once it was clear Biden was unfit. She would have been just old enough
It would've been quite the sight
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I take it from the sudden massive influx of "AOC BETRAYED US ON ISRAEL NOBODY VOTE FOR HER" narrative, that somebody somewhere thinks she's a candidate who would cause problems if she did run
I struggle to see it too, but I think I'd rather her lose than newsom win. I've always been a "harm reduction" sort, but I see NO way out through the dem establishment: a third senile trump term would probably be better in the long run than watching the ratchet click yet again. America needs change and leadership that actually believes in something positive enough to fight for it.
What about Walz? He's decently progressive (for America).
Same thing a lot of people said about a black guy with a Muslim name, while still deep in the "War in Terror" fog. I was among them, and very wrong.
Amongst them, get it right whilst you talk the politics.
Everyone who would object to one of these would object to all of them, so really there's not much difference between an old white male progressive and a young brown female progressive in terms of electability, and as we know from Bernie those are plenty electable. I mean hell, Obama was black.
I’m American and I’d vote for her! But I’m on Lemmy/PieFed so I’m not your average American lol
Sometimes the best candidate is a woman. That just how life be.
I agree
Too many people in the US still think that blokes should be in charge, no matter what
It's a very weird place
I hope she runs for the Senate. That would be the best move forward for her at this time.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/17/trump-aoc-voters
AOCIA will not bring the change either but carrot go brrr.