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such a funny time for this discourse again ☕

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Mostly left of center liberal here. I've got no problem with guns and folks using them safely and responsibly. Problem is, there is a whole shitton of assholes that can't even follow the first rule of firearm safety.
I like it this way, guns are a privilege NOT a right. Just like driving.
- Aren't they literally a right though?
  
  “The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” It is a right. If we were to get rid of gun rights, we’d need to repeal the second amendment.
  
  oh i know - it's comically stupid to say with such emphasis they're NOT a right, when they literally are.
  Personally, I welcome better regulation of gun ownership, and think the entire reason for the 2nd amendment is from a time long gone. Even the most "well regulated militia" would be easily squashed, short of them having similar firepower to the US Military.
  
  100%. There is no question that the original constitutional amendment is barely applicable to modern technology. Also, plenty of countries have guns and don’t shoot each other up all the time.
  
  I really dont know, but i dont think other countries have such an ease of access to guns as we do here. Still, it's clearly a mental health/culture issue
  
  Switzerland, for example.
  
  Im no expert but they have significantly less ease of access to guns. According to chatgpt:
  Switzerland
  Cultural context: Firearms ownership is tied to militia service—most adult men serve in the military and may keep their service weapon at home.
  Ownership:
  Citizens can own firearms, but permits are required for purchase (background checks, no serious criminal record, no history of addiction or dangerous mental illness).
  Automatic weapons and certain high-capacity firearms are restricted.
  Carrying guns:
  Very tightly restricted—permits for concealed or open carry are rarely issued.
  Guns are generally kept at home, not carried in public.
  Ammunition:
  Service members may keep their rifles but must return military ammunition; private ammo requires separate purchase/permit.
  Registration & oversight:
  All gun sales are registered with authorities.
  Federal and cantonal (state-level) governments oversee firearms closely.
  Gun deaths:
  Switzerland has a relatively high rate of gun ownership (approx. 27–30 guns per 100 people).
  But gun homicide and mass shooting rates are very low, partly due to strict regulation, cultural responsibility, and fewer social/economic drivers of violence.
  
  Not in my country.

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