Vivaldi takes a stand: keep browsing human
Browsing should push you to explore, chase ideas, and make your own decisions. It should light up your brain. Vivaldi is taking a stand. We choose humans over hype, and we will not turn the joy of…
cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36488277
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wish they would change to gecko though
Even Mozilla doesn’t really want Gecko anymore, that’s why they started Servo.
I don't keep up with any of this stuff, and so it just makes me think of memes like this:
jizz me on Smackdog
sent me 😂
They also abandoned it. It has been picked up by the Linux Foundation though, which is exciting.
I have noticed that Mozilla has a long history of bad decisions. I wish that the Foundation wouldn’t just let it bit-rot though.
They aren’t; it isn’t languishing at all. It is being actively developed. Check out the commit log.
Oh! I stand corrected. Haven’t heard news about it in quite some time though. Thank you!
Does this mean Firefox will continue to reap the benefits?
One would hope so, as that's one of the main pros of open source.
Mozilla integrated parts of Servo and concluded it as a Mozilla project, passing governance to the Linux Foundation Europe. You call that letting it rot?
It worked for Mozilla, their namesake product, if accidentally. Seamonkey has been good to me.
What makes you say so?
They saw potential in Rust for safety and technical guarantees, and started the Servo project. Eventually, they integrated some things into Gecko, and then concluded the Servo project.
What makes you think they don't want Gecko anymore? What makes you say they started Servo when it's a partially integrated and, more importantly, a concluded project?
Can anybody tell me why no one uses webkit?
safari?
I mean third party and multi platform. And I know Gnome Web does. But why isn’t there a bigger, more mainstream browser that isn’t Safari, that does?
i mean, looking at the history it makes sense that not many do anymore. webkit is apple's fork of KHTML, the KDE project's reimplementation of gecko, done because gecko is so goddamn hard to embed. once apple open sourced it, everyone started using it because, again, gecko is so hard to use. the biggest browser to use webkit quickly became chrome. then when chrome needed a different feature set than safari, they diverged and chrome's webkit became blink. because every third-party browser wanted to be compatible with the largest browser, they also switched. vivaldi was one of the last to switch i think. brave came into being after the fork so they started on blink.
There are some very minor browser that use webkit.
I know. Gnome Web among others. But why isn’t there any more mainstream example? Why does everyone use blink?
IIRC it’s used by a few devices that aren’t really built for web browsing. I think the PlayStation browser, some smart TV browsers, and the Kindle browser all use WebKit? But none of those devices are really intended for browsing. They just sort of have the browser bolted onto the side as an “I guess if you REALLY need to use a browser and have no other alternatives” option.
doesn't servo get like zero funding now?
they do at the linux foundation
