1y ago

Has the Reddit exodus killed the former Lemmy culture?

When I first started using Lemmy it seemed like such a nice place with interesting discussions. It seemed like the first group of people to join after the app exodus were being quite careful to be respectful of the existing culture.

Now, it seems as though the culture from Reddit has completely replaced it. Toxicity and all. I will say I do follow a lot of communities from a wide range of instances so it's clearly not everywhere.

Am I the only one who's feeling like we've just stormed in and bulldozed Lemmy?

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I came to Lemmy from reddit and I find it an incredibly nice place to be, full of polite discussions and fun posts. I haven't seen any of what you're saying.
- When the rightwing communities started getting defederated, their users started making alts on the main instances.
  Then you've got lemmy.grad which I still have trouble believing aren't just all trolls.
  I've never seen a logical comment from any of them. And they agree with the rightwingers waaaaay to often for it be a coincidence.
  Like, there was a thread the other day filled with people saying Islam is a violent religion and no other religion encourages violence. And all 1.7 billion Muslims support terrorist extremists.
  Maybe because China and Russia have also been oppressing them for centuries so lemmy.grad has to act like that's the right move?
  
  Like, there was a thread the other day filled with people saying Islam is a violent religion and no other religion encourages violence.
  Any links for that one?
  
  No idea how to link so other instances see it on theirs but:
  https://lemmy.world/post/3293542?scrollToComments=true
  There was like double the comments from last time I looked at it tho, it's been a couple days
  
  Thanks!!
  I’m struggling to find any anti-Islamic sentiment in there from lemmygrad users?? (which is what I was interested in seeing … ordinary Christianity > Islam isn’t too surprising to see anywhere I’d say, however shallow it is).
  EDIT: All I could find was this one comment from a lemmygrad user (along with a small exchange afterwards) that seemed to me entirely sympathetic to the Afghans and not at all anti-islamic.
  
  Internet leftist gets spooked when they see comments that don't perfectly subscribe to their cult. Their brains don't know what to do but call them right-wingers and Nazis. This really is reddit.
  
  I'm honestly not sure what you're talking about, but I think you could work on being respectful and sincerely engaging.
  
  No kidding. Talk about toxicity.
  
  Ha yea ... oddly ironic.
  
  Aaaaand there's the troll we were talking about
  
  No idea how to link so other instances see it on theirs but:
  I’m not sure there is a way right now.
  
  lemmygrad existed before all the reddit people
  
  Just like the rightwingers instances...
  They never federated each other, so they were nice to their own in their safe spaces.
  Then normal people started joining on "mainstream" instances. And both groups don't tend to do well with an average person. Because they've had their echo chambers so long, they're usually the ones complaining that Lemmy has "changed" when they venture out of their own instances.
  Their safe spaces are still the same, they just want all the new instances to conform to what their Lemmy experience has been instead of just sticking to their safe space where it's still like what they remember.
  
  Seen this. I commented on the lemm.ee meta discussion about considering defederating from Hexbear. I mentioned some of the things I've seen from Hexbear users and that I wish they'd just take a chill pill. Cue Hexbears (I assume), refusing to take chill pills.
  
  People I disagree with all around me!! Oh the horror!!
  
  I guess I'm just not seeing that part. Hopefully the admins do something.
  
  I don't feel like I see that many people from the alt right or tankies with my instance being defederated from theirs, so I don't think them creating alts is that much of an issue, but maybe it's because I don't see that much political content on All/top 6h 🤔
  
  Ha same. When I first started lemmy, every time I would accidentally stumble upon a lemmy.grad post I would be so confused. At first I thought it was trolls, i thought it was satire.
  And yeah I also remember that post from yesterday, all the comments underneath were people telling eachother to fuck off and that every single Muslim was a violent terrorist who wants to oppress woman. I think these people probably don't get outside much is my best guess . I have noticed quite the lack of civility in some of the threads here...
- I agree. Came from reddit in June. Lemmy has been a very friendly place. I just posted for advice with a typo in the title. Noone even mentioned it. No belittling advice or bickering. Just kindness and helpfulness.
  
  Did the same and was helpfully informed that unlike Reddit, you can edit the title if there's a typo in it :)
  
  Firefish is also incredibly sweet. Honestly the fediverse makes me feel good about the Internet for the first time in years.
- It's difficult to have a respectful discussion of disagreements on lemmy.world and sometimes even lemmy.ml, especially since a lot of the users I try to engage with start of with "ewww lemmygrad" and I tend to disengage there. It's just not productive nor is it anything worth my time.
  If both parties already agree on a line you won't find any disrespect. And this kind of interaction is one I see most often, especially when it comes down to politics over on lemmy.world...
  I think Hexbear has a posting startegy, that I've seen countlessly now, which works well. Start of with good faith discussion, if it goes well continue on the same path, if the other party decides to be a shitty person then post PPB, troll or disengage.
  
  I don't see any of that but maybe I'm in the wrong places. I'm actually really happy to be here because it's nice and people are friendly.
  
  More luck to ya, I wish I could say the same outside of Hexbear and Lemmygrad. Either way, I'm happy lemmy is working out, at least for others.
- same i suppose
  
  I did see some anti Islam memes on the atheist community but that's not really unexpected, they're anti all religion.
  
  "We're egalitarians, we hate all of you equally!"
- I disagree with you in a snide and condescending tone while missapropriating your argument.
  
  Let's fight.
  
  :(

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