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Imagine if more people actually voted for candidates that shared their policy concerns instead of just complaining into the void. In a democracy, the people get exactly the government they deserve.
- In a first-past-the-post system, the election outcome does not really reflect the will of the electorate. Which is why things are so fucked up in places that use these systems.
  
  The British don't seem to be doing so well anymore with their parliamentary system. it would appear that there is no governmental system that can't be manipulated effectively anymore.
  
  They have an FPTP system. This is exactly what I'm talking about.
  
  the osa was dreamed up by the tories and enthusiastically implemented by labour. even if proportional rep or whatever alternative to fptp was established before the act came into force, there is little chance that one of these main parties wouldn't have had enough influence to push it through regardless
  
  Any time you have an election, the winning choice is always 'first past the post'. No matter how many rounds of voting you place in the way.
  
  there are other methods, ranked choice for example
  
  Americans will literally do anything rather than implement proportional representation.
  
  I get your point, but what those systems do is they don't let massively unpopular candidates win by dividing the opposition and they let third parties compete without splitting the vote.
  
  Uh, no, that's not how this works at all.
  
  Time to become swiss
- How would under age people vote? Where I am from, you can only vote at 18 (16 for some special elections), so bad luck if you are under 18 and want to be represented
- the people get exactly the government they deserve.
  You are extremely naive about "democracy"
  You are taking the fake choices at face value
  This is not democracy
  Voting once in a while is not democracy, it's not even politics
  Look at the rotating cast of 100 or so loser leading just about every democracy, do you really believe that the current leaders really are these despicable, reprehensible, deceptive and bootlicking politicians are the best people among hundreds of millions of people ?
  Of course not, what a crazy idea, and you want to blame the victim about it ? The victim which are US ??? How dare you !
  Every country has their own version of first past the post, electoral college and all kinds of rules that ensure that even if they can't apparently influence politics, the politics have nevertheless NEVER left the hands of the power elites. The people who have always owned everything and will always own everything. You might be feeling some protest and the desire to point to some "rags to riches" story to rebut me, but no you know just as well as I do that these exception are far and few in between and they don't save the system.
  The system designed to perpetuate the concentration of power into fewer and fewer hands, as much as possible, stopping just short of monopoly and kings unless we stopped looking.
  Face it, our democracy is rotten bull shit ! It's NOT OUR FAULT, it was rigged from the start by GOD DAMNED SLAVE OWNERS !!!!!!
  So stop repeating the thought terminating platitudes like "the people get exactly the government they deserve", "it's the worst system, except for all the others", "western liberal democracy is the end of history".
  This was and always been fake no matter how much the elites want us to believe it.
  Democracy was fake then, it is fake NOW and that is not even taking into account just how incredibly WORSE it is getting in recent years. Not only were the elites content with assassination of dissenters of anything that would champion any kind of change everywhere on Earth, from Martin Luther King to an endless series of political activists but now we have even worse and more deadly than assassinations going on.
  Here are just a few of the new technology that ensure your old fake democracy will never EVER amount to anything and you will scientifically never matter to any kind of policy. (even though it was scientifically proven a decade ago that the people's preference have no effect on congess' policies)
  The new nails in the airtight, steel reinforced concrete coffin of democracy are
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  1. Behavioral Microtargeting Data-driven psychological manipulation that hijacks emotions to steer voter behavior without their awareness. 2. Algorithmic Information Control Algorithms decide what people see and believe, shaping political reality to favor power. 3. Surveillance-Based Targeting Every movement, message, and purchase is tracked and fed into systems designed to pre-empt resistance. 4. Neuromarketing & Biometric Influence Ads and messages are engineered to exploit subconscious emotional and physiological responses. 5. Digital ID & Programmable Money Financial and identity systems can be weaponized to reward obedience and punish dissent instantly. 6. Rigged Electoral Architecture Voting systems and rules ensure only establishment-friendly candidates ever make it to power. 7. Deplatforming & Soft Censorship Unapproved voices are quietly erased, throttled, or discredited before they can gain traction. 8. Algorithmic Bureaucracy (AI Governance) Opaque algorithms control critical life decisions with no transparency or accountability. 9. Weaponized Legalism ("Lawfare") Laws are selectively enforced to crush dissent while protecting the powerful. 10. Manufactured Hopelessness The system convinces people that resistance is pointless, ensuring compliance without force.
  We are totally boned, we should all go piss on the tomb of Edward Bernays and Ivy Lee in mourning because our democracy is NEVER COMING BACK
- Some* people get the government they deserve.

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