If Democrats win the house should they give Washington DC, and Puerto Rico statehood?
If Democrats win the house should they give Washington DC, and Puerto Rico statehood?
If Democrats win the house should they give Washington DC, and Puerto Rico statehood?
Yep.
They won't, but they should.
Chances Republicans lose the Senate -near 0. For Congress to pass anything it would have to go through both houses, so even if they somehow flipped the house (which may be unlikely with all the gerrymandering happening) it wouldn't be possible.
Yes. I’d go a step further and give native Americans representation similar to statehood too.
The U.S. government recognizes 574 American Indian tribes and Alaska Native entities. Give each of them two senators, one representative, and three electoral votes, and suddenly the white man's government becomes a minority adjunct to the new native government. I'd say let's give it a try and see how it goes!
If the Democrats win nothing will change.
They will continue to push the overton window, as they keep the seat warm for the next right wing fascist.
This is what Democrats have done with power over the last 50 years.
We either get ranked choice voting going, or elect a 3rd party, otherwise we stay on the same path the Duopoly was designed to keep us trapped on.
How do you have ranked choice for a two party system?
Ranked choice eliminates the two party hold, genius.
It’s not just the House, the Senate and the President also need to be on board. The House passing a resolution would at least illustrate who’s holding things up, though.
The Senate needs to be board, but not the president. The president doesn't have veto power as it is not a bill. Ratification of a state is just Congress. (And there is no way the Republicans will lose both sides of Congress)
Doesn't Puerto Rico not want statehood?
Yeah. Puerto Rico is going through a period of discovering itself after the first Trump presidency. Maria fucked the island, Biden did nothing different than Trump (who at least gave out paper towels), and PR is still suffering from rolling power outages. Luma, the power company, is owned by a company in Texas and has the money to fix it but hasn't after almost a decade.
PR wants to be in charge of its own future. A power company that extracts money but makes no changes is a colonial enterprise. So much of Puerto Rico is being peeled off for moneyed interests that it makes sense they want little to do with America.
Trump (who at least gave out paper towels
You didn't seriously just say that.
So they're revolting and leaving? I mean they are part of America right now and I don't see that changing.
Unfortunately, they made that known by boycotting the 2020 vote for statehood. The vote makes it look like they want to be a state and that might be all that congress bothers to look at.
Democrats are praising ICE and defending genocide. What in the world makes you think they’d do anything progressive, if they won a majority?
Yes but they won't do it.
Statehood or independence for Puerto Rico and while we're at it the Pacific islands and any other colonial possessions.
DC can be rolled into Virginia just fine as the compromise.
So Hawaii gets to represent itself? Or not since it's a state.
Does DC want to be or even have a reason to be its own state? I thought it specifically wasn't a state to be "fair" somehow.
Peurto Rico, OTOH, certainly wants to (or wanted to previously; IDK how they feel currently). Also Guam and the US Virgin Islands.
My memory is hazy, but I read about this once because it's a really weird situation. The founders wanted this area to be just be a simple neutral meeting place for politicians, so that the area itself wouldn't be vulnerable to political fuckery. That time has long passed as not only did D.C. turn into a city, it's a full-blown metropolis at this point. People live and work there but can't vote in certain things for really no reason in this modern day.
Oh there was political fuckery before our masonic forefathers laid the cornerstones. The reason it's on the border of Maryland and Virginia was to placate the southern states, otherwise the capitol would have stayed in New York.
It's something like, more people live in Washington, D.C. than in Wyoming.
I mean I imagine all the people living there would like a say in federal politics.
It’ll mess up the flag (51 or 52 stars don’t go into a regular grid), so they’ll need a one-in-one-out policy. A start could be merging the Dakotas and Carolinas.
I think that a 51 star flag could look pretty cool.
hmm, I think they all look like ass
At the very very least they should at least have a single voting representative for fucks sake.
It's crazy that there was a whole shitshow about taxation without representation (though the colonists certainly cost money starting shit with native peoples), yet over 200 years later, there are still people taxed without representation.
gop would never agree to it in the senate. Also old guard DNC doesnt seem keen on giving statehood as would the gop, it will just include too many problems for them
They should offer it and both DC and PR should get to vote on the issue.
I'm pretty sure PR has already voted on the issue more than once.
True but I feel like if it's offered to DC it should also be offered again to PR to be fair and in case sentiment has shifted.
I am going to pick a bone about Puerto Rico. Why do some Americans would like to try to give statehood to Puerto Rico? Literally half of Puerto Ricans can't decide on whether they want to be fully independent, or completely integrate with the US! Let the Puerto Ricans decisively settle it themselves, before mainland Americans debate whether they should grant the island statehood.
they should. they wont.
Two words: Douglass Commonwealth
The United States is a fascist country.
Wondering what the minority party would do if it regained power is not a relevant use of time imo.
We'll probably never have legitimate elections again in this country.
They at least want the idea that we can't trust the results, no matter what they are, as a standard. After watching videos from DEFCON, I definitely don't trust the last election results.