Proton is vibe coding some of its apps.
Proton is vibe coding some of its apps.


Proton is vibe coding some of its apps.
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ok and? No other service offers as complete a package as Proton
This is the argument people use when discussing Microsoft products
Is M$ stuff provably e2ee? Is Proton a publicly traded company? Does M$ have even close as good a track record as Proton? Are most M$ clients OSS?
Edit: Proton isn't perfect, not by a long stretch. I'm not stanning them either way, but being alarmist and giving in to mob mentality is counterproductive.
For me they just offer the right balance of being partially OSS, strong privacy and strong security that I can pragmatically "overlook" things even as a leftist and free/libre "hardliner" (as I already mentioned: the pragmatic kind. I don't see a point in using Linux-Libre and am ok with proprietary blobs or "tainted" packages for codecs necessary for piracy if there is no alternative and if they don't cause active harm (as in "phoning home" or shit like that. Linux-libre is a detriment to your security BTW)
Oh lookie here we got another Proton payer slash sucker who likes to rationalize giving money to corporations because "privacy".
I don't mean to sound alarmist, but you seem really naive while trying to lick Proton's boots.
Yeah, I'm hypocritical with proton, I use it myself, but I think people should just pay a bit more attention to what they're doing.
I use it with the full knowledge that they will start to track me and share my IP with Europol if they come with a warrant. (They are unable to comply with anything further, thanks to their e2e architecture)
It is part of my threat model and I use it solely for private stuff.
I couldn't care less that the CEO had one slipup praising a Republican with a seemingly good track record (although I did not investigate that matter)
And being a Luddite about AI is really counterproductive, it has arrived in our society and if correctly utilised will be just another tool used to automate or autocomplete etc.
Basically what your IDE already does but on steroids
(Disclaimer: it's Friday and I'm tired so there is a real – if small – chance I'm being a contrarian armed with superficial knowledge. I can't rly tell myself 🙃)
I don't think using proton is a personal moral failure, I just think these things are worth discussing.
I totally agree, but think that the toot you shared is a bit alarmist
Using a corporation to provide "privacy" is most certainly a logical and moral failing.
They are unable to comply with anything further, thanks to their e2e architecture
How do you know some crappy generated code isn’t doing some kind of stupid logging?
TBH this isn't a great argument for open source code. You know it's not doing something stupid in the exact same way you know a human written application isn't doing something stupid.
1- You review it yourself to double check OR
2- You hope that the community is reviewing it and that you would be made aware of problems OR
3- You just don't know.
Because I know how software development works IRL LOL