Need a keyboard with a dedicated "slop" button
Need a keyboard with a dedicated "slop" button
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I will stop freaking out when they will stop trying to shove it down my throat all the time
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That's what she said!
*I'm sorry*
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"she" being a conservative woman talking about pronouns again
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*I'm sorry*
No, you're not xD
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ai or pronouns
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ITT: exactly what the tweet was about. (Edit: It was a tumblr post.)
Y'all just saw "AI" and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.
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But tbf 'AI' in current public discourse and pop culture is (annoyingly) used synonymously with 'LLM' more often than not
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you could be talking about video game AI... but are you?
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I wasn't talking about AI at all, I was talking about people talking about AI.
AFAICT the OP was talking about vocaloid. https://sexygaywizard.tumblr.com/post/739313272247009280/some-of-yall-will-see-the-word-ai-and-freak-out#notes
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Exactly, it's downright comical how well OP called it.
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Aren't you OP? Also, people currently understand "AI" (a marketing term) as "LLMs" and audiovisual producing software. Had you mentioned it in the late 90s, it would've been more about "The Matrix" kind of sci-fi AI, for instance, and before it would've referred to Cameron's Terminators or Herbert's "machine intelligence". Words and their context. You're being purposefully obtuse because people here wrote thoughtful comments disagreeing with the premise in the image you posted (and apparently agree with) and you don't like it as it makes you feel silly. That's all.
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Thanks commenter! That's why I posted it. I knew this would happen.
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It has been my experience that things go the other way around. Usually people read the text (or programming script), see that it's nonsense and ask, "Is this fucking AI? Cause I really hope no one is actually this stupid."
And then they get annoyed that someone is cooking the planet using AI instead of their brain.
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I agree, they should be more like me and use their brain to cook the planet
edit: now that's what I call hot-headed
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I will stop freaking out when naive techbro men stop the ecological mass murder and environmental destruction that they supposedly NEED to do to sustain their shitty knockoff of a religion/cult.
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Silicon valley is just a convoluted project to revive prey enlightenment Christianity, but stupider and more evil.
Everything they have peoduced since 2008, if not earlier, is part of this.
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Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.
Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.
AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.
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One of the most insidious things that has happened over the past few decades is this overarching narrative that the left and right are equally evil and two sides of the same coin. That they are in any way comparable.
It has poisoned literally every aspect of life.
"The left went too far with 'woke', but that doesn't mean we need to go too far in the other direction!"
No. fuck that. Wanting basic human dignity for all people is not comparable to fascism. It's insane that this even needs to be said.
It's fucking baked into everything at this point. It is inescapable. I fucking hate it.
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If you want to take this one step further, it's the the inevitable result of identity politics in general.
Once you decide to generalize away per-issue stances just to paint them "left or right", "red or blue", "my team your team" then it becomes trivial to make an argument that both sides are the same, or conversely that both sides are polar opposites. Whatever suits you.
Republicans and Democrats both shovelled weapons to Israel. They are thus, as a whole, identical. Indistinguishable. Republicans are erasing reproductive Rights. Democrats are trying to guarantee them. They are thus, as a whole, complete polar opposites.
Generalizing from the specific is a convenient mechanism, but error prone, and it leads to absolute trash discourse... Which in turn leads to a failure of consensus for specific demands to make during a protest.
"No Kings" isn't realistically actionable.
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Branding something as “AI” just tells me that there probably wasn’t anybody critically examining the output to assess that it wasn’t 100% BS. If you’re using computer technology to scan bodies for possible early cancer symptoms, for example, then you should have a professional look over the computer’s results and you shouldn’t use the marketing terms that are used for churning out brainless media content.
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I have no idea what point you’re trying to get across but I just got back from shopping for a laptop for my college kid and pretty much all of them had a slop button
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If you are still looking https://frame.work/ I didn't see any ai slop button on these.
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I might consider that for myself, next time I need one, but the kid is not a techie. He needs something that just works, with anything he may encounter , for at least 4 years. Most damning of all he probably needs to be able to game, and is not interested in having to figure out extra steps
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Fucking love my Framework 16 and I'll tell everyone every chance I get.
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They use AI to translate the website, which is great, but the German looks awful at times.
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That's awesome, back in my day, we had to spit in our homemade fleshlights to get the slop.
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I'm really happy with my ASUS Zenbook 14 (16GB memory, 512GB SSD, Intel Core Ultra 7 255H), which I got for $700, in case you're still looking for a recommendation. Absolutely worth it IMO, though I'm running Linux, so the Copilot key is mapped to the compose key.
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Went with an Acer. Best keyboard, tiny screen borders for a fairly compact 16” screen, 32G, 2TB, 3.1 lb …. I forget which CPU, we looked at so many.
The big question is battery life, and we decided to risk it. For a claimed 9.5 hours battery life when new, will it still get through a realistic full day of classes for the next four years. Hopefully
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It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:
Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
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Yes, it’s totally okay starve millions of homes of water and jack up their utility bills to be able to summarize articles and write emails. (/s)
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Ah, that false quote is beautiful. It's like watching an effortless right hook delivered squarely onto the jaw of whoever Rocky Balboa is fighting.
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If I'm seeing the word "AI" outside of academic research or shitposting, it's almost certainly coming from a Techbro or techbro simp.
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I am definetly guilty even tho i should start judging after knowing if its useful ai or gen ai
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I really don't think there is any useful generative or general AI.
So a lot of the issue is how marketing got their slimy tentacles around the word, but most "useful" AI is domain specific, symbolic ML (machine learning). Even LLMs have their uses in very specific domains, but again, general usage is very questionable.
People are already somewhat familiar with ML, but that's been kind of covered by the catch all term "algorithm". What most people understand as "the" algorithm (YouTube, Twitter, whatever) isn't a single algorithm, but a complex set of algorithms often at least partly compromised of some sort of ML.
All that to say, the general public really doesn't need to know this stuff and the serious engineers couldn't care less of our opinion of it. Fuck AI.
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Exactly. I don't have problem with AI. I have problem with slop machines pretending to be AI.
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There is ai used for enemys and video games and some for protein folding
Thats the ones i mean with useful
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i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive
i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa
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that is absolutely the coolest thing I have seen in technology in years
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Fuck ai and fuck ai simps.
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The pronouns of LLMs are typically “useless/drivel”
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Outside of the privacy and environmental issues at this point AI isn't a fleshed out product yet it's being pushed into apps that don't need it. I think AI development needs to continue, and the public needs to use it and apply it in was it likely wasn't intended for but it needs to be opt in.
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Pretty sus how much pro-AI slop is suddenly on lemmy right as GPT5 is about to be launched.
Be less fucking obvious, you dipshits.
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amazing example of the person described in the post!
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I dont evento understand your point. His are both things related?
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AI is like I dog shit on a sidewalk: I go out of my way to avoid it.
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Until we fundamentally invent a new algorithmic approach to ML then there will be no more progress made in the abilities of AI.
So it's here and it's finished for a long time. Now is when you make a judgment on the validity of a new tech.
And this tech has been all marketing and no substance besides the ML applications we have been using them for since the 90s.
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I chat with ai whenever I don't have a friend to chat with. (a lot)
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Let's cook the fucking planet so we can generate stupid images we're too lazy to photoshop! What's not to like? More fossil fueled plagiarized bullshit so I don't have to think please!
Edit: Looks like I struck a nerve with some people who are, similarly to "AI", confidently incorrect about a few things. I'm not even saying LLM can't be used for good, it has, but I am saying that it is being used for a lot of bad shit and it's being powered by a lot of bad shit on top of that.
Think about that before you start hyping "AI" and attacking anyone who criticizes it because there's some valid criticisms that are very dangerous to ignore.
"AI" is not just LLMs or diffusion models, and that's what I think OPs is about, like, do you also hate Stockfish? Or enemies in a videogame?
You're correct in a technical sense but incorrect in a social sense. In 2025, "AI" in the common vernacular means LLMs. You can huff and puff about it, and about how there are plenty of non-LLM AIs out there. But you might as well complain that people mean silicon-based Turing-complete machines when they refer to a "computer," even though technically a computer can mean many other things. You might as well be complaining about how a computer could refer to someone that does calculations by hand for a living. Or you could refer to something like Babbage's difference engine as a computer. There are many things that can technically fall under the category of "computer." But you know damn well what people are saying when they describe a computer. And hell, in common vernacular, a smart phone isn't even a "computer," even though it literally is just a computer. Words have both technical and vernacular meanings.
In 2025, in the language real speak in the real world, "AI" is a synonym for "LLM."
I hate stockfish because it keeps beating me >:(
Also, some things are called AI that aren't. People are freaking out as soon as the term is mentioned without checking if it's actually some sort of model or if it's just a basic algorithm with a buzzword tossed on.
How often do you think that this confusing actually results in people acting as described in the tweet?
Context matters, and the people who are the audience for tweets about stockfish are aware of the nuance. Outside of niche communities, "AI" without additional explicit context means LLMs for the vast vast majority of the time.
If this isn't a strawman, then it's at least a misleading argument.
"AI" in videogames is basically never powered by large models like LLMs or Stable Diffusion or others. The fact you compare them only demonstrates how fucking little you actually know about this topic you are BLINDLY defending.
Decided to look into it, and a loose estimate (it's hard to find data on the power usage of photoshop) is that 1 minute of photoshop average is about 1 gen image at 4k output.
Which means depending on use case and experience, an AI spun up locally to make something quickly would use far less electricity
Well my iPhone 14 Pro gets really hot really quickly and the battery is comparable to a countdown app when I load a totally local LLM
You’re kinda proving the point of post. That’s literally what everyone here thinks of when someone says Ai
Because it's true.
Then they wouldn't be hyping and defending the current state of the "AI"
You can run AI off of renewable energies too. This isn't an issue of AI. It's an issue of capitalism.
You could do a lot of things, but that's not what is happening so here we are!
Also, to be clear, "AI" is just a marketing term for LLM. You're describing it as a capitalism problem but it's a product of capitalism and they're using it to make more money for themselves while it uses things people created as source material with the power of fossil fuel.
That is pretty fucked up.
Sure, it could be powered by renewables and it could be used to benefit humanity, but could doesn't count for shit when it's also being powered by fossil fuels and used to manipulate and even kill people.
Could and are: Two very different things.
Thanks for providing an example
So sorry for criticizing AI for very serious problems that will affect me in my lifetime along with everyone I care about. What a piece of shit I am, please forgive me! AI is totally great and has no problems at all!
Yesterday I saw a guy attacked on fuck_ai because he wasn't extreme enough with his anti ai attitude.
I commented to him, only said I thought that his comment was valid and got promptly deleted.
While you are correct that AI is a horrible source of greenhouse gas due to its insatiable need for power, I wouldn't call the people using it the make pictures "too lazy to learn Photoshop". Being able to draw is a talent not everyone has and it's kind of amazing to be able to make a picture you see in your mind without having the innate talent to do so. That being said, the people who have the talent who's art has been used to train these AI systems should be broadly compensated for their work being used in the AI models.
I despise whenever someone talks like this about drawing. Everyone can draw. Nobody was born being able to make masterpieces from day one. It's not some mystical arte that only those with the Chosen One gene can do. It all comes down to a willingness to try and to learn. That's it. Using "talent" to bar yourself from doing so is only doing yourself a disservice. Even drawing silly little stick men is still practice, and I can attest to that from both first and second-hand experience. Just pick up a pencil, or boot up paint on a computer (but please, at least download paint.net or something), and you'll find that you can indeed draw, you just have to do it enough to gain confidence. It's like walking, or driving a car. I don't see anyone saying that some people have innate driving talent and some don't.
Art can be made out of literally anything. Trash, pieces of fabric, some chalk on a sidewalk, spray cans, arrangement of random objects, sea shells, etc. People will still love to look at shitty sketches and cute chibis and eagerly repost that art. Your medium doesn't have to be just paper and pencil, nor just an expensive digital screen and a paid paint program, but even then digital can be free. Kritia, MS Paint, Sketchbook, IbisPaint, Fossify Paint, and many more are free and easy to download on Android. Procreate is cheap and loved by many. There are people doing this shit on their phone with their finger and a lot of determination.
None of these artists started out making masterpieces, they had to take the time to get to where they are and learn. Thousands of free tutorials are online, on both YT and other social media platforms, for any kind of art medium. Years of work and practicing every day. Even for those who are making masterpieces now, they take probably days or weeks to finish off a major project, they can't just pump that shit out.
If you can't draw or photoshop images well, that's fine, as not everyone is able to do that skill. I want to learn to draw, but I can recognize that I probably don't have to time right now in my life to do that, nor will I likely be able to reach the level I dream of, and I accept that. But the moment you decide to get mad at the people opposing AI art and using AI to Photoshop, or you yourself ever use AI to do such acts, then I will gladly call you a lazy bastard. You can't have your cake without the effort that others put in to do it, and if you're doing it for commercial purposes, you should be dragged through the streets.
Art is art because a human put their thoughts and feelings behind it. It causes discussion, whether good, bad, happy, angry, etc. AI art is only amazing on the surface, "wow, we have the tech to do this" and then it stops being amazing. Either way am artist/digital designer or don't make whatever it is you wanted. Using AI to make art is embarrassing.