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Google’s Search AI Is Absolutely Horrible at Geography

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  • LLMs doing a really bad job at things outside the scope of their language model (spatial relationships, the alphabet, math) isn't new. Although, I think Google letting an LLM into their search more than they should is important news.

    This is ChatGPT 3.5:

    If I face north, then turn left, and left again, then 180 degrees to the right, then left and left and left, which way am I facing?

    If you start facing north and turn left, you'll be facing west. If you turn left again, you'll be facing south. Turning 180 degrees to the right from south will also make you face south. If you then turn left three more times, you'll still be facing south. So, after all these turns, you would be facing south.

    GPT-4 is actually able to solve this, but most other modern language models can't. It's just an easy way to show the cracks in the "because it can speak means it understands" facade.

    • You can have GPT-3.5 solve it by simply adding "Make a list of each step and print the current direction".

      This is less of a problem with its understanding and more of a problem with it not having any internal buffer and its inability to loop. Meaning it simply can't solve large problems in one go. It can't think for itself and just tell you the answer. The text output is its thinking space, so questions need to be phrased in such a way that they let it go through the individual steps.

      • But, it does have internal buffer space. You can give it a massive chunk of text and it can parrot it right back to you perfectly. It just can't make use of that internal buffer space for tracking and reasoning about the problem, which I would describe as because it can't reason in the first place.

        I mean, you are correct that saying that leads to it succeeding:

        If I face north, then turn left, and left again, then 180 degrees to the right, then left and left and left, which way am I facing? Make a list of each step and print the current direction.

        Sure, let's break down each step and track the direction you're facing:

        • Start facing north.
        • Turn left (90 degrees counterclockwise) - Now facing west.
        • Turn left again (90 degrees counterclockwise) - Now facing south.
        • Turn 180 degrees to the right (180 degrees clockwise) - Now facing north again.
        • Turn left (90 degrees counterclockwise) - Now facing west.
        • Turn left (90 degrees counterclockwise) - Now facing south.
        • Turn left (90 degrees counterclockwise) - Now facing east.

        So, after following these steps, you would be facing east.

        But, I would say that if it had understanding, it would be able to do that for itself because it knew that that was required in order to correctly answer the question. Or it would say "I'm sorry, I can't quite make sense of that situation without talking through it one step at a time." Or something like that. Here, take a look at these -- does it seem like these are an issue of buffer space instead of its understanding?

        What are the countries in Africa that start with a "K"?

        There are three countries in Africa whose names start with the letter "K":

        • Kenya
        • Kiribati
        • Comoros

        Please note that Kiribati is not entirely located in Africa; it is a Pacific island nation. It seems there might be some confusion, as there are no other African countries that start with the letter "K" as of my last knowledge update in September 2021.

        Or:

        What are the countries in Africa that start with a "K"? Make a list of each step and print the current direction.

        Sure, here's a list of African countries that start with the letter "K," along with each step and the current direction:

        • Start
        • Algeria
        • Angola
        • Benin
        • Botswana
        • Burkina Faso
        • Burundi
        • Cape Verde
        • Cameroon
        • Central African Republic
        • Chad
        • Comoros
        • Congo, Democratic Republic of the
        • Congo, Republic of the
        • Cote d'Ivoire
        • Djibouti
        • Egypt
        • Equatorial Guinea
        • Eritrea
        • Eswatini
        • Ethiopia
        • Gabon
        • Gambia
        • Ghana
        • Guinea
        • Guinea-Bissau
        • Kenya
        • Lesotho
        • Liberia
        • Libya
        • Madagascar
        • Malawi
        • Mali
        • Mauritania
        • Mauritius
        • Morocco
        • Mozambique
        • Namibia
        • Niger
        • Nigeria
        • Rwanda
        • Sao Tome and Principe
        • Senegal
        • Seychelles
        • Sierra Leone
        • Somalia
        • South Africa
        • South Sudan
        • Sudan
        • Tanzania
        • Togo
        • Tunisia
        • Uganda
        • Zambia
        • Zimbabwe
        • End

        Please note that the information provided is based on my knowledge cutoff date in September 2021, and there might have been changes since then.

        • You can give it a massive chunk of text and it can parrot it right back to you perfectly. It just can’t make use of that internal buffer space for tracking and reasoning about the problem, which I would describe as because it can’t reason in the first place.

          That's not the internal buffer, that's the external buffer, also known as the text prompt. The point is that there is no internal buffer that is hidden from you (outside some control instruction to drive the chat GUI, that OpenAI hides). GPT gets the last ~2000 words of the text prompt, which includes both your questions as well as its answer, and predicts the next. This is done by the text prompt taking one round through the network, which is plain matrix multiplication, no loops or other complicated control strucutre. It fundamentally can't loop or write down hidden notes. Meaning the current state of its "thinking" has to be written down in the text-prompt, as that's the only dynamic state that exist in the system. That means if you force GPT to give a short answer, it will be have less "thinking time" than when you let it give it a long answer. GPT is fundamentally unable to think a bit longer for itself and give a short answer when it is done. The length of the answer is directly related to how much time it spend thinking about it. Which in turn is why forcing it to break the problem down into steps will often lead to better answers.

          What are the countries in Africa that start with a “K”?

          Everything involving letters and digits is problematic with GPT, as GPT does not operate on letters, but on tokens, i.e. words or word fragments. It has no direct access to the starting letter of a word, and while it can guess them with some level of success, it very easily gets them wrong when embedded in larger questions.

          • I do know the basics of how LLMs work, yes. My point was that the process that it uses for next-word prediction is inherently capable of, in effect, iterating over a sequence of tokens and processing it step by step. For example it's got the capability to look back in its context and see that:

            QUERY_TOKEN "And so I told him the story." Repeat that quotation back to me. ANSWER_TOKEN "And so I told him

            Needs to complete with "the". That's trivial for good LLMs and they can get it perfect every time. There's nothing that would prevent that same logic from completing:

            QUERY_TOKEN If I face north, then turn left, and left again, then 180 degrees to the right, then left and left and left, which way am I facing? ANSWER_TOKEN If you start facing north and turn left, you'll be facing west. If you turn left again, you'll be facing south. Turning 180 degrees to the right from south will make you face

            ... as "north." The problem is not the need for some internal buffer separate from the context. The problem is that it's not directly capable with directions and spatial orientations in the same thorough fashion as it is with language; if it were, it'd solve the second problem just as readily as the first.

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