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Trump sues Wall Street Journal for libel over Epstein letter

Just a moment...

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They have the letter in their possession. This suit will go nowhere. Also 'assault'? Some lawyer wants to get chewed out by a judge.
- Actually, wouldn't it be good if a judge were to confirm that the article was accurate along with the described letter? As good as it gets if you can all but publish a copy of it, no?
  
  I want it entered into the public record.
  
  Yeah, having it all out in court is the best option.
- The suit isn't intended to go anywhere, like most of A trumps personal lawsuits. It's about giving the illusion someone else did something wrong. And once people forget about it because other shit is in the media, they'll quietly drop it. In the meantime it forces the WSJ to waste money and lawyer's time defending a frivolous lawsuit.
  
  i dunno, i think there's a pretty good chance the wsj just bends over and issues a retraction and apology without ever going to court, so trump gets to claim another legal """win"""

I know that media quality has gone down recently but this isn’t WSJ’s first rodeo. Even with conflicting interests from their boss Murdoch. I’m hoping they wouldn’t go with this story if there wasn’t more fuel to add to the fire.
- You don’t print that unless you’ve at least seen a copy, probably not without being able to show it as well. If somehow Murdoch has turned on him, he now can access discovery, which would be wild.
  
  Yeah this wasn't published before the company lawyers had a good long look at the article
  
  I don't think it's a turn. I think it's like you said. They have hard evidence and even Murdock knows it's better to keep that shit in house. Whoever the source is would have gone elsewhere. That's not something that gets pushed under the rug.
  The source for this clearly can't be paid off to stay quiet. Going to the WSJ first is absolutely on purpose.
  If I had to make a wild guess. Maxwell. Only person that would have a bombshell like this with hard evidence. I think it's a warning shot too. I really doubt there isn't more.
  
  Happy cake day!
- Trump's response was entirely predictable so I presume that they predicted it and planned for it.
  
  Really? I thought it was weak for Trump. He usually is a lot better at forming a bit of a narrative around his lie. He seems a little scared and off to be honest.

Murdoch has fkn deep pockets.
- Yes, I was thinking he has more money and clout than the other guy.

Lawsuit to be stopped before discovery.
... or will it? Can he or his minions even be convicted of perjury any more?

Doesn't it being true make it not libel, also it can't be so absurd that people won't Belive it.

For a successful suit, since he is a public figure, he would have to prove that the letter was demonstrably false and that either they knew it was false or they acted with willful disregard to the truth despite serious substantial doubts about its validity (his trying to threaten them into not publishing it doesn't qualify). If this letter in question was in an album among many others gathered more than two decade ago, was in Epstein's possession for all of those years until investogators found it and took it into evidence in 2019, has Trump's signature on it, etc.... well, good luck proving it is fake, let alone that they should have known it was. Cuz it's clearly real, and they have the receipts.

Anti-anti-SLAPP EO getting signed in 3... 2...

i hope they declare totally vendetta and the leopards have their own civil war
- Oh, please, please, please!

He likely expects they’ll just bribe him off like CBS and ABC did. I don’t see that happening in this case and if WSJ sticks to their guns, discovery is likely to turn up a lot more dirt. Get your popcorn ready.

Discovery and depositions are going to be delicious.

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