Mexican Coke Invasion imminent!!

I'm not sure if this is fake or not
- This. People have been using the phrase "post-satire world" for nearly a decade now, and it's completely true.
  On the one hand, this is an utterly ridiculous thing for the President of the United States to announce.
  On the other hand, I'm 90% convinced that it is true.
  
  We're also in the post-truth world, so it kinda doesn't matter if it's true or not...
- https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/trump-says-coca-cola-agreed-use-real-cane-sugar-us-2025-07-16/
  
  Reuters is more of a satire site than The Onion these days.

Inadvertently destroying the corn industry and the overuse of HFCS in foods made here might just be the only good thing he does, and it still wouldn't be on purpose.
Except that we don't grow sugar here, so we'd have to import it, and he'll slap a huge tariff on sugar so now a coke will cost $15 for a 12oz can.
- That's probably still a net win for the health of the US population though, right?
  Completely on accident, he might actually improve the lives of average people if soda becomes cost-prohibitive.
  
  Not really. After some time both sweeteners turn into exactly the same inside the can. Reactions channel on YouTube has a great video on the topic.
- The reason they started to use HFCS in the first place is because of.... a tariff.
- he'll slap a huge tariff on sugar
  He might also only say he will until the stock price is low enough to buy in, and then say he'll exclude it from tarrifs.
- Honestly a gigantic tax on added sugars in our food stuff would be great. I want that shit taxed every time the commodity changes hands - from the moment it's a corn stalk or a sugar cane stalk or beets in the ground all the way through to when you are drinking your preferred variety of sugary drink.
  Our food system is so broken and the financial incentives, and time saving ones, are perverse and pervasive.
  I don't want to kill fast food but I do want it to go back to reasonable portion sizes and it should be cheaper to buy a salad than a burger. That's how our food subsidies need to be structured, not shoveling money into the meat and sugar/corn industry so the worst food can be the cheapest.
- He already did slap a huge tariff on it. Brazil makes up ~60% of the world's cane sugar exports and realistically is the only country with enough spare capacity to meet the US's needs. He just slapped a 50% tariff on Brazil because he's angry at them for prosecuting Bolsonaro.
- The US is actually one of the worlds top producers of sugar. We make about 65,000,000 pounds of sugarcane a year, plus all the sugar beets we grow. Also, the largest sugar refinery in North America is in Louisiana.
  Now the goofball thing is that while it still isn't enough for all the United States, we export thousands of tons. Mostly to Mexico, but also like Canada and Japan, while at the same time we import way more from places like Brazil.
- might just be the only good thing he does, and it still wouldn’t be on purpose.
  He destroyed the bullshit TPP that was about to fuck over digital ownership with DRM , and that was by accident too,
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership#Intellectual_property
- We grow sugar in Florida. Not sure how much though. Probably not enough to supply Coca Cola.

- I have peed on kids!
  
  That's a fun one to have in your comment history without context
  
  Naughty naughty
  
  I have peed on kids!
  huppakee
- I thought it was the other way 'round..?

"We've never spoke to this man." - Coke
- I'm sure the CEO got a call from the Whitehouse and had a brief, rambly word salad vomited at them over the phone, and replied diplomatically along the lines of "we will absolutely investigate that as a possibility" in much the same way you placate someone elses precocious child
  
  More likely that Trump discussed real sugar in coke with some random person and his demented brain remembers it as the coke CEO.

Also Trump: I'm putting a 50% tariff on imports from the country that makes the majority of the world's cane sugar (Brazil) because I'm angry that they're punishing their fascist that attempted a coup.
- This is the math. They assume that Coca Cola won't raise prices, will import more sugar, raise tariff revenue, and they can have their cake and eat it, too.
  Meanwhile, in reality, Coca Cola US already sells a kosher version with cane sugar for Passover every year. So they just keep doing that, bring 20 cases to the White House for a photo op, and maybe do a larger limited run with ads on Fox News for literally 1 day.
  Once again, being an idiot has allowed T to negotiate a hard position and force someone to do something they already do.
  
  Corn isn't kosher?
- "Hell yeah! Make them pay for the border wall" -Conservatives... while also paying the 50% increase in Coke prices

"Replacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar doesn’t make sense," said Corn Refiners Association President and CEO John Bode. "Replacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar would cost thousands of American food manufacturing jobs, depress farm income, and boost imports of foreign sugar, all with no nutritional benefit.”
Corn farmers heavily voted for Trump, but according to them they’re weak and stupid anyway, so now we just wait for the cost of Coke to jump due to importing sugar. ‘Course, he never said anything about Pepsi, so people just flock to the much cheaper Pepsi products and Coke goes under! Brilliant!
- "Corn is life. Without corn in everything you consume, you will be sad and everyone will hate you. Drink delicious corn syrup for every meal."
  -President of the lobbying group the Corn Refiner's Association
  
  https://youtu.be/G_Op-GGYPTM
- Jump? Have you bought soda recently in the store? I haven't in years until my wife wanted some... Over 3 bucks for a 2 liter, and a 12 pack is over 10 bucks...
  Last time I looked it was about 2 bucks for a 2 liter... And that upset me because I remember when that shit was less than a dollar and I'm not even that old...
  Anyway
  
  I just get the supermarkets own brand of it. I'm mixing it with enough rum that you can't tell the difference.
  
  Yup, I remember when 20oz bottles were $.69 and they gave out free ones with a cap. I mean, there was gambling involved in the advertising, but shit, even back then, that price was nothing. These days, even with my well paying job, a coke is 15 minutes worth of work.
- Well, it'll probably be a "new" version of coke with cane sugar instead of HFCS. New is in quotes because they already sell that product. They'll take the existing product, call it Trump Coke, or something, and sell it for four times the price.
  
  Still in plastic bottles.
- Pepsi already has a cane sugar variant they sell at the same price.

A May report by the MAHA Commission, a panel convened by Trump and tasked with identifying the root causes of chronic disease, said substantial consumption of high-fructose corn syrup could play a role in childhood obesity and other conditions.
...

He does anything to distract from the Epstein files. And his other failures.

Won't the corn-growers be ticked off by this?
- Are we pretending that is something he cares about?
- Considering he thinks the people that voted for him are stupid losers, he probably doesn't care.
  
  also weak
  
  I'm so used to him being wrong about everything he says that it feels weird when he's right.
- One can hope so.

Looks like somebody's been buying up stakes in sugar cane production. Didn't they used to produce sugarcane on Epstein's Island?
- Epstein? Are you still talking about him? /s

Don't get distraced by this from the Epstein files

Yeah, he's definitely not trying to distract from the Epstein files...

Mexican coke tastes better because it uses slightly less sweetener and twice the amount of sodium. There’s a YouTube video by chemist George Zaidan that did a chemistry deep dive on the topic. The acidity of coke breaks down the cane sugar (sucrose) into fructose and glucose (which is the composition of HFCS). There is no difference in flavor between cane sugar and HFCS in acidic beverages, but there are often other differences in the recipes that improve taste. Most notably sodium content.
- Huge if true. I have seen notes about the cane suggar difference many times but never the reveal that it turns into the same molecules.
  Why does the Antifa cover up that information? (Downvoters, look at OP's username)

I think its saying something when this is easily the best thing hes actually done as president.

In coke, which is acidic, sucrose breaks down into glucose and fructose anyway in the bottle before you drink it.
- You can easily solve this by not drinking it.
  
  I’ve been playing that game for 20 years now!
  …I’ll still have a nice mixy occasionally, though.
- Cane sugar has equal amounts of glucose and fructose though. High fructose corn syrup has more fructose than glucose which alters the taste.
  
  It's really close though. 45/55 for the type of hfcs used in soft drinks vs 50/50 for sugar. Not sure that's enough to throw off taste. Maybe marginally less sweet since fructose is sweeter.
- https://lemmy.world/post/33066947
- I remember watching a video about this. But I definitely prefer the taste of Mexican coke. Then it hit me, I think it might taste different depending on what material the packaging is. I have this same issue with coffee. I can taste if it was sitting in a plastic mug vs a ceramic one. So, theoretically, I think people might just like the taste of coke from a glass bottle.
  
  It's not literally in the taste though, pour it in the other packaging if you want to confirm. If you try and think im wrong do a blind test first. I don't drink a lot of coke, but this definitely holds true for coffee.
  
  Check the sodium level. Mexican coke has a lot more.
- This us the first time I come across this; are the ratios different or something? Why do people prefer the taste of the sugar cane version (unless it's physiological)?

Does this mean also production plants outside of USA?
- @ijhoo@lemmy.ml yeah, so now Coca Cola will not only pillage so much mexican water (it's an actual terrible problem) they'll also be doing it with cane sugar now. Perfect 😒
  
  We have lots of both sugar and potable water here in Brazil... Maybe the US could send the wanted Brazilian criminals they are protecting in Florida to come get it.

Mexico been having this since forever. Is Mexico our role model? How many decades before cheap government chocolate with no artificial ingredients?

Thank you for your attention to this matter

Now I'm not saying that the em dash means it's LLM or at least not him, but I am saying I doubt he knows about it. The spacing is wrong, though, so maybe it is his work.
- LLMs are a form of artificial intelligence, Trump lacks intelligence so it can't be
  
  You see surely the fact that Donald Trump is able to move around and find food seems to suggest that AI could be conscious. Since the bar seems to be quite low.

Coca Cola US already makes a real sugar version that's kosher for Passover.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Coca-Cola-Soda-Soft-Drink-Kosher-2-Liters/303954989
Sooooo, what's new here?
- It's not widely stocked except around Passover, IIRC because it's more expensive. Because corn subsidies.
  I don't like Coke, and I stopped drinking colas altogether years ago, so I'm not exactly current on shelve stocking. But that's my recollection.
  
  I also don't drink soda, but I seemed to recall that a few years back Coca Cola did a limited release of the cane sugar version when they finally caught on to how popular Mexican Coca Cola was in the US.
  But when looking for that, I found the regular annual stock of the same thing.
  My guess would be another limited release, and when the average consumer balks at even the tiniest price difference, they knock this down to a trickle of a steady supply only to fit purely political/ideological demands. Keep a single bottling plant in Texas running cane supply 2 days a week, that kind of thing.
- What's new is copying the Mexican president. He heard "cane sugar" in a chocolate bar announcement. Then talked to Coke about something they're already doing.
  
  Yeah, well just wait until he hears that cane farms are full of brown people. We'll be back to HFCS in a week.

Mexican coke (made in Mexico coke) is made with HFCS and sucralose.
There's is a federal tax on high caloric dense foods; and that's how Coca-Cola avoided it.

Jfc

Finally, focusing on the important issues!

Will maga care that he's literally taking business away from American farmers?
- I was gonna say that. the reason everything has corn syrup in it is because the government subsidizes so much DAMN CORN we dont know what to do with it all