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  • Who says that ?

    • So, genuinely there is a long history of women and non men being regarded of mere sexual objects for when men get horny as an outlet for their horniness but not for their own pleasure. Women and non men are not supposed be horny, or at least not show it.

      However, ironically, in the past women were seen as the horny ones. It goes back and forth even in socities and nobody really has a damn clue what they're talking about nor do they account for individual differences between people.

      Really though most people do get horny, the main point of contention is how they are allowed to resolve it and whether they can and how satisfying it is when doing so.

      Not many people have all those points figured out because of most societies being either sexually repressive or there being very little research or thought behind sexuality, especially for non men but also men since it's all based on patriarchy, stereotypes and not really understanding much about the mind-body attraction and pleasure, consent and boundaries. Or at least some who do are not listened to.

      Basically desire, horniness, consent and research and general understanding about these things is a mess no matter where you go and nobody has it all figured and probably won't for centuries.

      • Supposed intellectuals believing that "sex make baby" is the peak of our understanding and that we aren't still in the dark about how sex, gender, and evolution actually work

        • That's part of the problem, yes.

          But our point is that even those who don't think like that still don't have it all figured out because of cultural and media messaging, poor education, lack of experience, people not talking shit through and people not understanding themselves, and what they truly want and/or enjoy. Because either they don't have the language, they find it difficult to consider those options or it's embarrassing or they aren't with partners who want to do those things but are either stuck in monogamy or the things they want most people don't agree to.

          Plus, the lack of research, as we think you're saying in part due to such a basic idea of sexuality and what it's for certainly isn't helping.

          However, our point was that even in progressive/leftist circles we have a long way to go for many many reasons.

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