My favorite bit:

Leia gives Rey a pendant and tells her that she can use that to track them wherever they go.

In the SAME SCENE, with NO CUTS, they are tracked by the first order and shout "THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"

You just described, IN THE SAME SCENE, how it is, in fact, possible.

Bonus: Putting a tracker in the Falcon was how the Death Star found Yavin IV in the very first movie.

All Holdo had to say was “yes, there’s a plan. Not telling you what because of operational secrecy”. Instead she expected Poe to blindly follow orders when he’d already shown he couldn’t do that.

Well, he did fine following orders in the first movie, and then they changed the entire character in the second movie but kept the same name. I have no idea why they did that.

I highly highly recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuuDTnMPMgc

I think you'll like it a lot. I realized that bathos is what I hated about the Last Jedi. They killed so many truly deep moments to have stupid jokes. They couldn't let anything just be serious. It ruined the tone of the movie, couldn't decide if they wanted to be a comedy or a drama, and so they did neither.

You expect a movie director only interested in pretty scenes to write a good plot!?

... your name must be Kathleen Kennedy...

That works in a Mel Brooks movie

Good. Our first laugh of the day.

No, the horses were in Rise of Skywalker.

The Last Jedi was the one with the "Can you hear me now?" gags, and Luke tossing the lightsaber away.

I've given my reasons, how about you give yours?

WTF Rogue One is awesome

You take that back! It spawned andor which is also amazing. Rogue one proves they can actually make a gritty star wars film that shows a broken universe wouldn't be all good vs evil bullshit.

I tried watching new star wars and they were all so boring. I remember from childhood pod racing and that red guy with double light sabers.

I now see that people liked star wars for it's story, but for me it was just a cool space fantasy. That nostalgia didn't transfer for me.

I don't very well remember the plot of the first three of the new movies, but I remember being bored, they felt slow and there were no hooks to make me care. After watching the third movie I just said fuck it and gave up.

I might try and watch the old movies as a grown up, but at this point I'd rather rewatch Shrek after work then gamble on a franchise I probably won't like.

I think Christopher Robin and maleficent were good. As long as they're telling a new story it's fun to see the old characters. When it's just the exact same plot but a little darker and live action over animation it's so dumb. Our CGI just ain't good enough to justify that.

They're remaking Moana already, and still a new movie, relative.

The Cinderella one slapped. But that was the first one, and it was successful because it was made with care and thoughtful intention. Disney has been chasing that sucess ever since

I hated aladdin, the monkey and parrot were two of the best characters and without the comically over-the-top 'acting' they are completely different characters.

And the only IP of any note we got out of it is :: checks my notes:: a Winnie the Pooh slasher pic.....

They shouldn't be allowed to take out a trademark on public domain characters.

The forced trilogy structure also really hurt it. When the Hobbit film adaptation was initially announced (at the time just two movies, even), I thought that it didn't make any sense to adapt a book shorter than any of the individual LotR installments into multiple movies. When they revealed it would be a trilogy, I knew it was some studio decision to milk it for money and didn't have high hopes.

There is actually a fan edit floating around online somewhere called "The Hobbit: Extended Edition" which, contrary to what the name might imply, cuts down the trilogy into a single movie of comparable length to the LotR Extended films. Still not perfect, but a huge improvement in quality just from cutting out all of the extra garbage that didn't need to be there.

I think it was Prime's Theater where I learnt that for the Smaug fight scene for movie 2, they planed the set the night before, painted the next morning, filmed, and the paint was still wet when the sets were taken down.

It’s really bad. Like, nearly unwatchable.

Like the Queens Gambit but checkers would be hilarious

Hey Gemini, in the style of the 2012 movie Battleship, create a screenplay based on the board game Hungry Hungry Hippos.

Yes, they work in the line "they're not gonna sink this battleship!". When you're committed to this absurd premise, you pretty much have to say it.

I like it. It's like junk food, you know it's bad, but it's still nice when you get the craving for something bad.

I'd rather have my butthole cut

Just watch the Andrew Lloyd Webber theather version. It's by far the best.

It's clearly ripping off Pocahontas, not Dances With Wolves.

There's five of them???

Yeah, I watched it in a 3d cinema at the time and it was a great experience. Not the pocahontas story, but the cinematics. Avatar 2 was just shit. It's like they're pretending to be a real scifi franchise by building an entire world.

Same thing for the sequels. Here's an article about it. Maybe it's the passage of time, but I'd say 2 is much more visually stunning than 1

Smurfgully

Incredible summary. 10/10.

Both movies were loved by their target demographic: children

I feel better knowing I'm not the only one who didn't like the new Mario movie for the same reason.

I'm curious why you watched it

Especially the Spielberg sequel... After the success of the first movie, Crighton wrote a Lost World novel as a sequel to the FILM, not the first book.

Spielberg jettisoned the book and did his own sequel instead. :(

I really wanted to see the chameleon dinosaurs on film.

Lost World was alright, 3 was meh. The rest are a big bag of:

Yep!

FWIW I much prefer Sony's Spider-Man over Disney's.

i first heard of kraven from the game, spiderman instead of the movie, i think the GAME cutscenes are better than the movie.

It honestly was fine for a kids movie. The story was so generic that it was impossible to mess up and would work with any character/setting.

I was disappointed with how boring it was. They should’ve leaned way more into the emoji aspect.

Oh I thoroughly enjoyed the film. I went to the theater to see it 8 times, with 5 different girls.

It turned out fantastic. But it had absolutely no business being made. And that was the assignment of this thread.

The first one, in terms of cinematic story telling, is actually incredibly good (I don't know how much that contributed to things); if you're interesting, this video essay points out a bunch of stuff I hadn't noticed, the first time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhdBNVY55oM.

Also, entirely agreed about the first two.

It's apparently not available anywhere, no streaming service carries it.

If you want the former, I'll say Arcane. They poured money into that and it shows. They will never be able to count money made by that, though it was great word of mouth and I'm sure increased sales. But they spent like a half-billion dollars on that with no hope of any return. But damn that was a hell of a series.

My initial thought seeing the title was Megalopolis but I don't know the budget for it. Haven't seen it yet, so I can't speak to the quality of it, but I had read a ton of shit talking about how hard it was for Copolla to get it made and then distributed after he did make it. It sounds like the only thing that fits the question.

I weirdly don't hate the warcraft movie. It sucks in some ways but it does a good job feeling like it's in the warcraft universe.

Did we watch the same movie? I marathoned all the films and Dial of Destiny is dire. To be honest, only the first film is truly great. I'd probably rank them 1, 3, 4, 2, 5.

Is it worth watching though?
I couldn't sit through Grandpa Pants and his Crystal Skull.

That's literally why it was my choice. It's one of the biggest budget films ever... and also one of the biggest flops ever.

John Carter suffered from an awful title.

"Princess of Mars," would have resonated better with marketing. And is actually one of the book titles.

Neither of those movies were really all that terrible. I enjoyed John Carter. But clearly they didn't connect with audiences.

I must be on my own. I know John Carter flopped phenomenally, but I really liked it. Thought it was a great movie. Was very annoyed when I found out that there may never be a 2nd. Even if there was, at this stage it is very unlikely to be the same cast. IIRC, a lot of the blame was on Disney marketing. But IDK about these things.

I did some digging and apparently Waterworld somehow broke even. I remember a lot of the hype around the film at the time was wanting to see if it was really as bad as people said it was.

To be fair that could be a wild movie

Take Titanic, where the movie is a romance that happens to be set in a historical event.

Now imagine that instead of a director who really loves the ocean, it's a director who really loves blowing shit up. That's Pearl Harbor, and you would be correct for avoiding it with violence if necessary.

You're not missing much. I saw it around the time it came out and will not watch it again. There are just too many things that are a better use of my time, like shampooing the family dog or taking a nap.