Based torvalds

Least angry Linus post
- Anger is strongest when you care about the subject of the anger
  Why would linus give a shit about right-wing swamp life?
  
  x11 fork guy was saying some anti vax shit or something in the kernel discussions and I'm sure he's not the only lobotomy-right-wing commenter. Lob-right for short.
- Makes me proud to push Linux professionally.
- He went to therapy and got his shit fixed.
  https://www.businessinsider.com/profile-linus-torvalds-inventor-linux-software-operating-system?op=1
  
  Imagine being a reasonable human being and going to therapy
  
  Pretty sure this exchange was after he calmed down.

In shocked and appalled that the guy who maintains the free os kernel might be a dirty commie. I use arch btw.
sob
I... I use arch.
- i wanna use arch but my daily driver is a macbook pro with intel silicon.
  
  I’ve got a 2012 Mac book pro with arch Linux running great on it, other than some jiggery with the WiFi driver.
  If it’s intel, it is totally a non issue that it’s a Mac, other than the ones from around 2012 need a couple of extra commands to get WiFi connected in the instillation image boot , and an extra package needs to be specified for instal to make sure it will be able to connect afterwards. Ethernet works without any jiggery or pokery.
  
  my daily driver is a macbook
  you get what you deserve
  
  asahi! fedora is fiiiine
  
  Is it one of the more recent ones, i.e. one with a T2 chip? If so, T2 Linux might be for you. Got Arch running on a 2019 MacBook Pro this way. The WiFi kernel module causes quite a few issues, so it's a bit of a pain to install and even after that, WiFi will stop working occasionally, but reloading the kernel module helps if that happens. Definitely far from perfect, but still somewhat usable.
  I think it's also possible and easier to install on older MacBooks without the T2 chip, but not sure since I have no experience with those.
  
  Intel . . . silicon?

Wait, you can get an atheist ID card?
- In some countries, your religion is on your national id. See, for example, Indonesia or Thailand. Greece had it until 2005.
  In some of these cases, you could literally have government id that says "Atheist".
  But it is largely a figure of speech. It means you not only identify with a group, but publicly identify with a ground.
  
  In Indonesia, IIRC, being publicly an atheist is technically legal, but will get you killed, and nobody would convict your murderers. Atheists are seen there the way paedophiles are seen elsewhere.
- I know that the Satanic Temple has membership cards you can buy. I'm sure there's probably other organizations out there that do as well.
- I don't ever see it being helpful in life to register your religion.
  
  It's mostly in death so people put you in the right cemetery.
  
  In countries that collect church taxes on behalf of the church, it can be necessary to officially de-register your religion to avoid paying taxes to the church.
  https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/09/22/in-some-european-countries-church-membership-means-paying-more-taxes/
  
  A lot of churches/temples are membership-based. You can probably still attend sermons and the like in most cases if you're not a member, but they won't let you have a wedding, baptize your baby etc. in their temple.
- American Atheists is an organization that will happily take dues and send you a membership card in return.

It's wild to me that someone like Linus has the time and mental capacity to compose these. It's kind of nice to see that you can act like an unemployed Reddit mod no matter your other responsibilities. I too like to act that way occasionally.
- When people are just the dumbest sometimes you need to unload. The weight of being a genuine person wanting to better this fucking disgrace of a world takes a toll.
  In those moments, they're the personification of all the hate and ugly that your existence is against.
  Indulging all the time yeah get the neckbeard and fedora ready... sometimes though
- It’s wild to me that someone like Linus has the time and mental capacity to compose these
  he is a being made mostly of rage.
  also finnish.
  
  Finish? I thought the Linux project is forever ongoing! (/s)
- For what it's worth, I think this exchange is at least a couple years old. It's not the first time I've seen this diatribe.
  Edit: somebody else posted the link. 2 years ago: https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm

This is one of the most heartwarming things I’ve read in weeks. Linus is a treasure.

Linus is the best kind of jerk.

"i don't use woke communist propaganda!"
sent from linux"

That's my benevolent dictator for life alright

I've never liked him more.

When was this posted? Or is it not at https://social.kernel.org/torvalds ?
- I was able to dig it up:
  https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm
  
  Thanks.
  I found morgthorak (as their post was deleted).
  (Offensive Language Warning) https://mk.gabe.rocks/@morgthorak@poa.st
  I figured "Is Morg that bad? Maybe Linus is overreacting, or there's missing context?" Ohhh boy. I can't even quote their posts without violating Lemmy's rules, but its openly white supremacist and crudely homophobic.
  But it is kinda... morbidly fascinating to peer into that sort of community. I haven't heard some of those slurs since high school.
  
  Hmm.. I can see the thread in mastodon, except for that specific comment. Everything is visible if I visit social.kernel.org in Firefox though.
  
  Thank you. Good find.
- A few years ago.

Linus coming out swinging, ya love to see it

Holy based

He's not gonna sugarcoat it, ever. Hell yeah.

o7

What paltform is he on?
- That's mastodon
  
  Akkoma actually, but same basic thing.
  
  Ha, I never knew he was there. Pity he is no longer active.
- I remember when this was forat curculating I found him and his post on mastodon.
- His own blogs no?

Very well put.

*Acided. See how stupid you sound?
- what
  Edit: ah, acid is the opposite of a base. He's very acided :3

Huh, none of that has anything to do with communism. I basically agree with everything except the guns part (I believe that to be a fundamentally incorrect interpretation of the wording of the 2nd amendment), but in a "the government has no business or right to regulate those things" libertarian way.
It's also not woke because the principle of bodily and personal autonomy is old school "don't tread on me" libertarianism, and thus "right wing". I think I agree with Linus about the inability to define those terms, carry on.
I may not be the target audience though as I also totally want socialized healthcare, free education extending into the collegiate level, and a UBI replacing all welfare programs, because those fall under the "General Welfare" set out by the Constitution and those things would cost less than what we have now for far better outcomes.
EDIT Wow, that's a lot of voting engagement. I am not sure if I pissed off the Left for saying I believe the 2nd amendment as written and intended grants an individual right to guns, the Right for saying universal healthcare and UBI is good and I don't believe the government can or should legislate abortion/LGBTQ rights/etc, or both sides equally.
- Huh, none of that has anything to do with communism.
  "Communism" and "woke" are the same in this context, because both are pejoratives right wingers use for "everything I don't like".
- and a UBI replacing all welfare programs
  I'm actually against that. Not against an UBI per se, but against it replacing all welfare programs.
  The main issue here is that needs vary a lot, and depending on your specific needs, an UBI might not begin to cover them.
  One of my kids has Cystic Fibrosis, which leads to frequent hospital stays. One of the main medications (Kaftrio, that stuff is a miracle drug, it's crazy how well it works) costs ~€350k per year.
  UBI would be a drop in the ocean in this regard.
  The same goes for a lot of other conditions. For example, a nursing home costs way more than any UBI would cover, but also if you have a disability that would require frequent assistance and/or a modified home or some special kind of transport, UBI would be just not enough.
  
  But that's where socialized healthcare comes in. None of what you brought up would have to be covered by any sort of UBI. Especially since if we had a national UBI we would probably already have socialized healthcare since the latter would be easier to get through than the former.
  
  I would think that having procedures, medications and other medical costs covered under universal healthcare and having a non-means tested or work gated UBI would be a hell of a lot better than the current Medicaid and SSI disability nightmares.
  I include both of these together because currently the overhead expenditures for managing and running both the collective welfare programs at all levels and our for-profit healthcare system run at the behest of and for the profits of health insurance burn a significant amount of both money and time.
  Needs may vary a lot, but having hoops to jump through to maintain eligibility for multiple welfare programs and under constant threat of being kicked off of any of them doesn't seem to be the right answer to me.
- "the government has no business or right to regulate those things"
  If you believe this, then you need also believe the government has no business regulating murder, rape, mass shootings, terrorism and domestic violence. Those two concepts cannot be extricated from one another. I get that right now in America is kind of the entire point of the 2nd amendment, but when you don't have a constitution that's fundamentally broken, this stuff doesn't happen so readily. Plus none of those 2nd amendment types are actually doing diddly squat to stop it.
  
  I will assume that you mean only the 2nd amendment and not that preventing anti-transition and/or anti-abortion legislation would also prevent laws on murder, rape, etc. If I am wrong, I think my response will cover those as well.
  The purpose of the government is to establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. All those things you listed infringe on the rights and bodily autonomy of others, which falls under justice and general welfare at the very least. What anyone does with and to their own body under their own consent does not, and if thus overreach of the government.
  Self defense, whether armed or unarmed, passive or active, is a natural right belonging to any living thing to prevent loss of their autonomy. Guns are tools to enable self defense and even the playing field. They can be and frequently are used without infringing on the rights and autonomy of others.
  I also did not include guns under the government not having the right or business to regulate. I think they certainly can, and they have through the 2nd amendment. If you want to change this, you must follow the established and agreed upon rules to do so. If you do not, you weaken all other laws by establishing loopholes where they can be ignored.
- The 2nd Amendment is a single sentence and the first four words, "a well regulated militia", are the subject. This is grammar. Unless you think the authors were bad at grammar, there's not much to misinterpret.
  
  I think the authors lived during the mid to late 1700s when "well regulated" meant "well equipped"
  
  Yeah, but you have to take the whole sentence to actually identify the grammar, not just the first 4 words. Beyond what has already been said about well regulated meaning 'in good functional order', that is a explanatory preposition to why the rights of the people to keep and bear arms is important. The Federalist papers back this up well enough as well.
  If I said "Because being hungry sucks, access to the fridge shall not be restricted", this does not imply that one must be hungry to have access to the fridge. Maybe it would be better if it were so people couldn't over eat or eat out of boredom, but you would need to change that sentence to make it mean you had to be hungry to access the fridge.
  There is also the fact that under federal law, everyone not serving in the standing military or the national guard (the organized militia) is legally classified as the unorganized militia, but I don't think that even matters to the reading of the amendment.

I disagree. Evolution would accelerate if everyone had a gun. Also, the kernel has grown out of control. OpenBSD for the win!
- That’s not how evolution works.