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Zelenskyy fires recruitment officials for accepting $10,000 bribes to help Ukrainian men dodge the draft: 'bribery during war is treason'

www.businessinsider.com Zelenskyy fires recruitment officials for accepting $10,000 bribes to help Ukrainian men dodge the draft: 'bribery during war is treason'

All of Ukraine's regional army recruitment chiefs have been fired after an internal investigation discovered widespread corruption.

Zelenskyy fires recruitment officials for accepting $10,000 bribes to help Ukrainian men dodge the draft: 'bribery during war is treason'

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If it's a crime, do not fire them, lock them up in pris-
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the actions "treason" and has initiated criminal proceedings.
Oh. Oh well.
- Also, one of the main reasons the Russian army has been underperforming is corruption. Loads of money siphoned, incompetent people getting positions, you name it. Zelenskyy is also making sure the same doesn't happen in his country and stays on top performance/efficiency wise.
  
  Zelenskyy will go down in history with the likes of all great leaders. The man has risen to legendary status. Once this war is won and Ukraine is free, I hope he gets that much deserved beer and beach vacation.
  Slava Ukraina
  
  I can only agree with every single word, but I think he should go the Churchill way, and just find some peaceful and relaxing job once the whole thing is over (I know, Churchill actually stayed around for a while). For one: because he will definitely deserve it; but for two: looking at history (not excluding my own country's), too many great politicians have fallen into the "...or you live long enough to become the villain" category. I'm rooting hard for Zelenskyy to at least get a draw and not go mad later.
  
  He has said a few times that after the war he'll retire from politics.
  Considering his abysmal approval rating before the war and his huge popularity during it, I think he'll take the "amazing wartime president" label and happily walk away afterwards.
  If history has shown us anything, the politicians you need in wartime and peacetime need very different skillsets.
  
  I love that the guy now being a hardass leader saving his country from a powerful invading force is there because he got famous playing the piano with his penis. What a career path! (Also, watch that video because it's really funny.)
  
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  playing the piano with his penis.
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  I think it's far more likely that, over time, we find out he was pocketing a huge chunk of the wartime aid we US taxpayers are graciously going into further debt in order to fund, like Hamid Karzai and Saddam Hussein, themselves once also darlings of the US war machine.
  
  Ah yes because the money we give them is definitely more than a tiny drop in the lake which is the US military spending.
  
  The key words there are 'US military spending'.
  Canada spends approximately 26 billion a year on their national defense.
  The US spends over a trillion, and Congress has approved around 113 billion (and that was way back in March) for Ukraine. That is, by any measure, not a drop in the bucket. It's unreasonable to argue that all 50 states wouldn't benefit more from having those funds distributed at the state level. Hawaii in particular comes to mind right now.
  
  Arguably out of all the times pepole should complain about us military spending this is probably the worst .war in ukraine is probably one of the most just conflicts america was invloved in since probably the korean war or perhaps even WW2 . Its pretty rare to have a situation where you can say one side is the bad guy with such a certainity.And its not like they are sending troops or anything.just equipment and ammo ,more often that not american made, which means most of those dollars stays in USA either way.
  Alghtough the fact that the usual US military budget is overblown is also true.
  
  Arguably out of all the times pepole should complain about us military spending this is probably the worst .war in ukraine is probably one of the most just conflicts america was invloved in since probably the korean war or perhaps even WW2
  Our entire right wing in the US rolls like this. Like literally the only time they scream and shout and threaten is when people are just, competent, knowledgeable, and reasonable. They hate anything that works well and love blanketing the earth in mass misery.
  
  And its not like they are sending troops or anythin
  I HATE this argument.
  Yeah, we're not sending soldiers, but we're still getting people killed for this war. You know why? We neglect our own people's needs. There are people dying in heat waves that we could save with proper resources. There are diabetics who need insulin. We don't have a health care system, and if you suffer a major injury or illness, chances are you're dying or going bankrupt.
  Our war spending gets our own people killed, just maybe not with a missile. There are real life consequences the poor and middle class experience because our government chooses to make war profiteers richer every single year.
  
  Literally the only time you people whine about wasting money is when it's used to keep a bunch of nazis away...frikin ayyyyyy.
  
  Not a big fan of this "us or them" attitude. Ukrainians matter as much to me as Oklahomans, and a large part of our country's wealth comes from extracting labor and resources from underdeveloped nations. It's only right that we spend that hoard helping outside our borders.
  
  But you know just as well as I do that this money would never go to those causes. It would either go straight back to the military budget, or to rich people's pockets in the form of more business tax cuts.
  
  OK, 🇷🇺Vlad🇷🇺
  
  His country has no choice but to. Even though Russia is a big bumbling country with oodles of corruption and a poor military - they have a huge population they can draw from.
  Russian tactics during WWII was to use that overwhelming population to their advantage to buy time for them to get their military and manufacturing base up to scratch. Then when they countered, they still had more than enough people for an overwhelmingly large army - it wasn't through good training, or good supplies that they won, but through just being the biggest.
  Ukraine doesn't have that luxury. In order for them to survive this, they have to be as lean and as well trained as possible. Each soldier needs to be worth more than 10 Russian soldiers. It's a brutal, harsh world. Attrition is probably the main fear.
  Every person who is capable of fighting, needs to be fighting at their peak. So I can totally see the reason for zelenskyy not letting off those dodging the draft - they don't have men to spare.
  
  the Russian army has been underperforming is corruption
  Check under the hood of any army and you're going to find all sorts of corruption, graft, and kickbacks. War Is A Racket.
  
  After 2014 they took some notes that ex-soviet army is garbage. One needs a lot of changes to make it reliable and efficient. Lots of ukrainian fighters would tell you that as well (like хрюнчик from reddit), it's just so happens that they took it a little more serious this time and also trained with NATO troops. But the whole beaurocracy, man, it needs to be flushed like a turd. I have a distant knowledge of how it is in Ukraine, but I'm pretty sure that up to 2014 or even further they had everything on paper, no central digital database of draftees, this eased the bribing and fixing papers. Zee's office would have a fun time cleaning this shit.

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