3mo ago

Only The Best People

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I like to look at it this way: There are not many bad people but weak people who fall for propaganda. The real bad people are just a few but those are the ones manipulating the weak.
- I know a lot of people who are pissed off and struggling yet don’t blame minorities for their troubles while actively voting against their best interests at every possible turn. I also know people who, even if it took some time, realized that conservatism is actually fucking awful. I even know some conservatives who are just really stupid or bad at economic policy but who are genuinely good people(so long as he can see you or even just hear that you’re a friend of someone he knows my dad will give you his shirt, and he doesn’t have ill-intentions towards minorities, for example).
  Trump people are just fucking terrible. Their entire “ideology” is so rooted in being terrible that even if they were just weak morons sweat away by the propaganda I still cannot fathom how they weren’t tipped off by any of the thousands of moments which gave them the opportunity to reflect.
  
  You nailed it though. They lack the ability for introspection and self reflection
  
  All this is not new. It started with Reagan and I'm confident you will soon have it worst than Trump, given that your country managed to fall lower 3 times already.
  
  I want to respond to this but it sounds so disconnected from what I said I think the best way to do so is to ask: Did you reply to the wrong person?
- Nah, a lot of people are cunts.
  
  Tetraethyl Lead has a lot to answer for, but yes, a lot of people are just selfish arseholes.
- Too weak to have any morals? I doubt it. They are just given permission to let their inner racism out.
  
  That's too easy and excuses us from the work needed to rescue these people, content in our own moral superiority.
- Glad you started this conversation. Allow me to just add: if we are to repair our republic and restore our constitution, we are going to have to find a common ground where these feeble minded followers can see that the world they reject is one that benefits them more than the dystopia they embrace.
  This is going to require restraint and tolerance on our part.
  
  You don't have to be stupid to follow an authoritarian. In fact, your characterization is a huge driving force in their radicalization. People with legitimate grievances watched globalization leave them in the dust in pursuit of a multicultural, pluralistic society. This left them vulnerable to narratives that espoused their "historical" superiority amongst other groups and their subsequent entitlement to world primacy. It's more a function of a lack of diverse perspectives as a result of continued divestment from public services and goods, as well as geographical concentration of wealth and resources and other confounding variables.
  I agree that the world before Trump was marginally better for these voters than the alternative they've elected, but your heirarchical paradigm is condescending, reductive, simplistif, obnoxious, short-sighted, and exemplifies why so many people swung that way to begin with.
  Also, I can't underestimate how incredibly dumb and dense you have to be to consider that the previous paradigm was good for anyone outside of the West who was not already someone of considerable financial means.
  
  Looks like one of us already has that common ground I was talking about in abundance. Thanks for leading the way.

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