Moscow comes under 'massive' drone attack leaving civilians killed and three injured
Moscow comes under 'massive' drone attack leaving civilians killed and three injured
The attack came as a Ukrainian delegation was set to meet with America's top diplomat in Saudi Arabia about ending the three-year war with Russia.
Russia has been bombarded in the biggest Ukrainian drone attack of the war, Moscow officials have said, on the same day as crunch talks are set to be held between Kyiv and the United States.
The Russian Defence Ministry said air defences shot down 337 Ukrainian drones over 10 Russian regions overnight, a record high, as Ukraine hit back at a series of brutal recent attacks launched by Moscow.
At least one Russian civilian has been killed and several injured, with dramatic footage showing fires raging from the exploding drones including in high rise residential buildings near Moscow.
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It's sad but you can't expect attacked countries to not fight back.
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They committed a war crime. Take a moment to look at the photo gallery, they bombed civilian cars, civilian apartment complex, single family housing.
And they are doing this on the eve of a potential ceasefire. This is not "sad", it's malicious and counterproductive. This kind of attack does nothing to improve the balance of power of Ukraine, it's essentially state terrorism.
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It's so sad, if only Russia could've averted this tragedy somehow.
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If only the west hadn't provoked the whole conflict.
Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine
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Ah yes, it was the West that made Russia attack. I wish Russia was a sovereign country that didn't have to obey what West (apparently) tell it to do.
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They are a sovereign country, a sovereign country that stated red lines in regard to their territorial security. The West knowingly provoked Russia by posturing that Ukraine would join NATO.
This is exactly the same reaction the US would have if the scenario was flipped (as stated in the Monroe doctrine). It is hugely hypocritical of the previous administration to pretend that Russia is in the wrong for wanting to secure their border.
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Ah yes they needed to invade an another country because they felt threatened. Well I'm glad there was a justified reason for it at least.
This is exactly the same reaction the US would have if the scenario was flipped
And would you have been fine with it then, as you seem to be now? Because I sure as hell wouldn't (and haven't) been.
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Finland's territorial security has been constantly threatened by Soviet Union and Russia since WW2. Does that give us the right to bomb their civilians, or do only big countries with nuclear weapons get to use this logic?
Otoh, I totally get that in 2025 only big countries with nuclear weapons have any say in geopolitics. It didn't use to be that way and I wonder greatly about people who think this is a good change.
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Being a sovereign country doesn't give you the right to decide what other sovereign countries do. Believing you are entitled to does make you an imperialist. This applies both to the US and Russia.
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Yes, the Catholic Church "provoked" Henry VIII to murder his wives as well. Or maybe when you choose to murder people you are still accountable for murdering them.
It's like saying "I told my ex who still lives in the neighborhood they can't be friends with any new men, and she did it anyways so I blame it on the men for provoking me and I went over to her house and tried to strangle her to death."
"I'm innocent, it was the new friends that made me do it"
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you see? this is why we didn't want redditors to come to lemmy to begin with. you brought the fucking astroturf campaign with you.
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They tried, for 8 years. The West collectively said "nah, fuck you and your peace deals" and continued to bomb Donbas.
Now y'all are celebrating war crimes with the one hand and clutching your pearls that Russia hits back at military equipment fired from within hospitals (another fucking war crime from Ukraine) with the other.
I hope the upcoming burst of the bubble puts the west down for real, I can't believe people like you are voting for the people in charge of the biggest military apparatus in human history.
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Russia tried not attacking Ukraine for 8 years and then just had to do it? That does sound very Russian.
Friend, you're clutching your pearls over a single attack but Russian invasion has caused tens of thousands of civilian deaths. Give me a break.
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I know "no u" is the end all be all of lib argument, but I'm not clutching my pearls at anything. Russia is winning and Ukraine needs this peace deal, and politicians there are gonna have to acknowledge what the population wants soon or mass desertions are gonna be the least of their problems.
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I'm sure there's an argument relevant to the topic in your comment somewhere, I'm just not seeing it.
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This is a Brazen Lie. There would have been no war in Donbas, no bombing and no death if Russia itself didn't send its troops in there. The Russians, including Dugin and Girkin, have openly said this. Even Putin mentioned in an interview invading donbas in 2014
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There would have been a war because the DNR and LNR seceded, and Ukraine refused to negotiate in good faith, choosing to bomb civilians into an unconditional surrender.
We will all win! Because we will have a job — they don't have one. We will have pensions — they don't have them. We will have the support of people — children and pensioners — but they do not have it. Our children will go to schools and kindergartens, and they will have them sitting in basements. Because they don't know how to do anything! That's how, that's how we're going to win this war.
Poroshenko said this in 2014.
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Another ceasefire that the fucker Putin will break for 21st time.
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Ukraine is torpedo'ing their own ceasefire offer by doing an indiscriminate drone attack (a war crime), and the first thing you think is "buh in my brain Putin would break tuh ceasefuhre uhnyways" ?
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And how many war crime has Russia commited by indiscriminately bombing ukrainian civilians? So many you can't even count them anymore. You don't seem really bothered by the Russian war crimes. Strange.
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This is what liberals call "whataboutism"
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It might be whataboutism if the proportion were similar. Kinda like Gaza vs Israel. Both sides are avenging things, but one side is causing way more damage.
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But none of this would be happening if Russia stayed in Russia and wasn't invading Ukraine and bombing cities. Ukraine was never a threat to Russia.
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Ok.
Still whataboutism
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Still deflecting. Can't even admit that Russia are the aggressors.
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Did you reply to the wrong comment?
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What were the targets?
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If you're worried about Ukrainians striking civilian infrastructure, i have some bad news about what Russia has been doing.
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This must be that "whataboutism" I keep hearing liberals crying about
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