Winning is relative

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lower unemployment
Doesn't matter, I can only have two, maybe three jobs at once so any more than that is irrelevant to me
higher growth
I get the same $8/hr whether the GDP goes up, stays the same or goes down. You can't leave workers out of the distribution of wealth and then pretend that more wealth is good for workers
- Don't worry about it man. You are missing the point. Look at how many billionaires we have now! All that money is going to trickle down any time now!
- But your billionaires get richer more quickly than ours! Isn't that something to be proud of?
  
  hey watch it buddy, one day I'm gonna be one of those billionaires
  
  one day I’m gonna be one of those billionaires
  I sense people actually believe they're an easy powerball away from just that.
  
  Everyone is sure they're the exception
  
  This has gekoloniseerd kokosnoot energy
- I don't understand how the hell people even work jobs that don't make minimum of $30/hour at least in California and even parts of the East Coast. Like your rent is $1600-$2200. At 0.8*3200 for $ 20/hour with taxes your take home is $2560 for a 40 hour work week. So what are you just not eating that month?
  How about healthcare transportation medical 401K literally anything? Pruning of benefits didn't happen because of corporate greed it happened because people just accepted what they were offered. In the Midwest where apartments might be closer to $700-$900 a month some of this works but on the coasts rent is usually twice that. And a car to get most places is $400 a month with insurance supposing you have the credit.
  I work in IT and programming, and Id love to do physical labor and talk to real humans rather than salamanders in silicon valley. But the jobs I see don't even break $30 an hour. Yet it costed me $27 for ham and cheese and altoids, not even including bread where I live in the bay area. It is fucking expensive.
  I feel like America is doing so many things ass backwards greed first. But it's not like I have the experience of living overseas or in Canada or otherwise so I don't have much to compare it to, so it's safer by default to live with the devil you know than the one you don't.
  
  27$ for ham? How much are we talking about? 500g or 1kg? (about 1 or 2 pounds)? Deli or conveniece?
  
  Half a pound. Deli.
  
  Christ 250g of deli hame for $27? So probably about 22-25€?
  That's probably a ½-¼ more expensive than good ham from a local italian shop in Germany...Good god.
  
  What people do is pile into apartments. Yeah, to live alone may cost let's say $2000/month rent. But you can pile 4+ people into a four bedroom apartment that costs $5000, split it four (or more) ways, and they're paying $1250/month. Some of them have significant others, so then you wind up with two people in one room each paying $625/month. (Just random numbers, but that's the general idea of it.)
  The people I know who do it hate it, but it's what they can afford while staying in the area they like (and/or were born in, have a community in, etc.).
  
  Good lord that's no way to live.

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