Science Memes @mander.xyz not_IO @lemmy.blahaj.zone 2d ago

That's why it's called science fiction duh

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in less than a decade
- I hate to tell you this, but the Human Genome Project the meme is referencing was completed in 2003 and published in 2004.
  
  Time sure flies 🥲
  
  more than any specific project the meme may be referencing, it's pointing out the difference between scientific acceptance and derision, which has changed more drastically in the last 10 years than in the last 20.
  
  Science derision, has been around for forever, look up the history of anti-vaccination leagues in the UK and US in response to the small pox vaccine in the 1800s. There were antivax parents at my primary school in the 90s too. They were just in pockets of small communities before, and therefore wielded less power. Social media has allowed them to gather into one town square and allowed them to reinforce each other's delusions, amplify their voices, spread (aptly) like a virus, and most importantly tie it to a political/culture war.
  
  Or it's the consequences of lead and heavy metals poisoning finally coming to their natural conclusion regarding the function of the human brain.
  
  unfortunately, your new comment is a further pedantic and unnecessary expansion of both what the meme and my comment succinctly stated; you are apparently still missing the point of memes in general, this meme in particular and my comment: the specifically rapid public shift from science appreciation to scientific derision.
  
  I'm happy you're finally learning about this, but please make it clear that you have discovered something new for yourself and the reason you are publicly sharing this common knowledge, rather than pretending I asked for you to make a perfectly enjoyable, understandable meme 40 times longer and less clear.
  
  Then let me be succinct: There was never any "science appreciation" among the general public, and if you think there was, you're in a bubble. A specific, most likely higher educated and most likely American bubble. You're just hearing voices outside the bubble now.
  
  Condescending comments like your reply might contribute to the science derision though, just saying.
  
  Nah man, this is recency bias, pre internet science was generally well regarded and respected. There is empirical evidence to support this even over just the last 10 years.
  
  https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2023/11/14/americans-trust-in-scientists-positive-views-of-science-continue-to-decline/
  
  "There was never any "science appreciation" among the general public"
  
  you are demonstrably incorrect and your confident ignorance is insulting and harmful in general.
  
  but here I am, being the guardrail to your misinformation again:
  
  less than a decade ago, measles was eradicated from the US.
  
  since then, vaccinations and science in general have been maligned and you can see in national polls that scientific authority is less respected than it was a decade ago to the point that measles has been brought back and is now killing children again.
  
  because in less than a decade, science appreciation has turned into scientific derision.
  
  you are completely wrong here, and you are not helping anything by spreading misinformation and flaunting your ignorance of the matter.
  
  "...comments like your reply might contribute to the science derision though, just saying."
  
  of course you are "just saying", that is the problem with your comments: they add no value..
  
  value-added comments are what is needed.
  
  If your comments do not add value, as your three have not in this thread, then they are value-less and should be withheld.
  
  you are adrift.
  
  Measles vaccinations being down can also be linked to mandatory vaccination laws being taken off the books across states during the last decade. It says nothing about the inherent levels of scientific education of the parents doing so.
  
  Previously, parents were mandated by law to have their children vaccinated at birth or to attend schools. We don't know if they would have opted to vaccinate their kids if it wasn't mandatory, and it definitely doesn't point to them "appreciating science" more.
  
  Again, very condescending reply from you, considering correlation /= causation is a basic rule of research.
  
  Enjoy your crashout, ig.
  
  again, your adding a valueless comment about a hypothetical unproven concern is not helpful, you're just wasting space.
  
  here is an example of a value-added comment that supports my four comments and disproves all of your comments:
  
  One of the polls I mentioned in the last comment showing a specifically recent drop in US trust and scientific authority and institutions:
  
  https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2023/11/14/americans-trust-in-scientists-positive-views-of-science-continue-to-decline/
  
  instead of making things up in your head, you could have easily checked the information I gave you from the real world and found that you were incorrect and I was giving you valuable information.
  
  so, yeah. ya got slammed. again.
  
  ～⁠>⁠`⁠)⁠～⁠～⁠～
  
  adrift.
  
  I'm literally so confused, what are you even arguing about anymore? That Pew poll regarding scientific distrust is specifically related to the Covid pandemic, but you're taking about measles, and also how this has been going on for a decade. Which is it, and why are the sociological elements I've mentioned before not value added according to your authority?
  
  All this over a simple comment about the Human Genome Project.
  
  Again, enjoy your crashout. If you feel validated, that's all that matters ig 🤷‍♂️
  
  "I'm literally so confused"
  
  you literally are.
  
  "That Pew poll regarding scientific distrust is specifically related to the Covid pandemic"
  
  correct!
  
  "but you're taking about measles"
  
  incorrect! as I've stated multiple times and in every comment, I'm talking about the US-specific rapidly declining mistrust in science, leading to tragedies like the resurrection of the measles.
  
  again, for your benefit, the key phrase here is "the specifically rapidly declining mistrust in science".
  
  "why are the sociological elements I've mentioned before not value added..."
  
  because you are not contributing information that is necessary or requested.
  
  you began with platitudes, moved on to inconsequential tangents, offered unprovable negative hypotheticals with a through line that scientific mistrust has not been increasing in the last decade, which Is objectively wrong according to statistical analysis, including the poll I supplied to you with and every other poll you can look up on scientific mistrust in the last decade.
  
  If someone had asked, "were vaccines historically maligned?", one of your tangents would have been relevant.
  
  but no one asked you any of that, and you persisted in misinterpreting the meme and then continuing to misinterpret my statement as some sort of request for you to share misguided theories and misinformation, which i do not appreciate.
  
  "...this over a simple comment about the Human Genome Project"
  
  Yes, since you would not take me at my word initially and quadrupled down on your misinformation, i have had to repeat multiple times that your valueless comments are not appreciated and should not have been made.

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