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Manjaro, hands down.
i genuinely can't get my head around this, why recommend that distro, it is probably actually the worst one of all of them for every usecase
Probably because you're incapable of forming your own opinions and you suffer discomfort whenever you see someone who can.
It's okay, I see it all the time.
I did form my own opinion on the distro, I recommended it to people for years and did their it work for free... that's how I know it's horrible for every possible usecase, why do you like it?
It's basically a pre-configured Arch. I've used it exclusively for years without issues unique to Manjaro.
I've heard of endeavoros. I haven't tried it and seeing their website used to describe it as a "command-line centric" distro made me avoid it.
I don't see any reason to switch from Manjaro if I want another distro to function the same. The problems the community has with it are irrelevant to me, and frankly, seem like a bunch of crybabies jumping at the opportunity to shit on a popular distro that focuses on making things easy for users.
Ease of use is EXACTLY my issue with manjaro, as someone who has serviced 5 separate people, they have all managed to break it with their limited experience, without doing anything strange at all, in ways that have been increasingly difficult to fix, i eventually had them all switch.
You've been lucky, if you use something like bazzite, you'll literally never have any issues even if you try, let me give you an example of something that might happen if you use nvidia
each linux package is version numbered, instead of just having a "linux" like arch does, manjaro insists you have linux49 installed, and that you use their gui kernel replacer to change them out.
If you have the nvidia package installed, and don't update for a very long time, eventually, this linux package will be one that's out of date, and will conflict with the nvidia one, meaning now your machine can't update, without some lengthy maintenance, this was something i had to do literally dozens of times. There is no chance an inexperienced user could figure this out for themselves. I essentially had to rdd the nvidia package, update, reinstall it, and it took hours.
There are many other examples of this, manjaro is a pre-configured arch, sure, but it's an extremely poorly pre-configured arch, endeavoros is command-line centric, sure, but you can just use the gui in the same way you can with manjaro, arch is just a cli-centric OS. If you don't like the CLI, I highly recommend bazzite, you'll never have any of these issues, updates will be automatic and easy to rollback, the system will be entirely unbreakable unless you try very very hard.
"It just works" is precisely the problem with manjaro, it doesn't just work, ease of use is not a valid usecase for manjaro for so many reasons.
https://github.com/arindas/manjarno read this document for all their insane security failings.
That's not even going into the fact that they use the AUR and don't push it back two weeks while also pushing back the arch packages two weeks, which accomplishes literally nothing, and also causes aur packages to break things regularly.
These kinds of issues are not something I would ever recommend for someone who wants something easy to use. If you want something pre-configured, I assure you, you do not want arch, that defeats the very purpose and the very usecase of that distro.
My entire focus is finding distros that are exceptionally easy to use for people, because I give linux to the elderly and i'm trying to increase the usernumbers, recommending manjaro is an absolute no for that. I actually had less maintenance when I was giving people arch setup with just archinstall kde and discover.
Furthermore, if people hated "easy for user" distros, why are they not shitting on linux mint? Or bazzite? It's quite possible that you've just chosen a bad distro and been lucky with your maintenance needs.
why are they not shitting on linux mint?
Great question. There are more reasons, such as the bandwagon mentality among these forums. I'm not going to list them all, and I'm going to block you but I'll leave you with this.
Linux Mint was literally hacked and served malware on their website. Manjaro has had nothing near an issue like that, yet we constantly hear people shit on it. You don't see people mention Linux Mint being hacked every chance they get.
You can't think for yourself. It bothers you when people make decisions for themselves. I don't believe most of what you say and you're just here to shill your own, niche distro.
Goodbye. Easy block. I hope everyone reading this can realize how asinine this community has become and make pragmatic decisions for themselves!
You don’t see people mention Linux Mint being hacked every chance they get.
Because it happened once and they dealt with the issue, manjaro... has never dealt with any of their problems with any seriousness.
It bothers you when people make decisions for themselves.
No, I just think that people shouldn't be recommending obviously bad things for new users. New users should be presented with evidence of why something might be good or bad, as long as that evidence is verifiably true... most importantly, they should be given things that will actually be easy. Which is why I recommended bazzite.
I don’t believe most of what you say and you’re just here to shill your own, niche distro.
Literally everything I said is a verifiable fact except that i service 5 people.
I hope everyone reading this can realize how asinine this community has become and make pragmatic decisions for themselves!
Dude this only makes you look asinine. Did you really post to a public forum with a poorly thought out bad opinion and no evidence and expect everyone to rally behind you as a pragmatist?
Why is that an easy block? The user you responded to was cordial, laid out his reasons and even provided some sources to corroborate. What exactly did he do wrong in your mind?
You can join him. I've been on these forums long enough to recognize a shill/tool when I see them.
When you have more life experience, hopefully you'll understand.
I'm close to 40 but help me out then.
What did you see that made you think he was a shill/tool? All I see is someone explaining why they don't think a specific distro is good for beginners.