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"I love the poorly educated"

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Massachusetts is also 4th in the country for states with the most people leaving to live elsewhere.
No doubt due to cost of living because Massachusetts is ridiculously expensive. The friends I have there are either leaving or totally resigned to not owning a house or ever retiring. Comparing a historically important coastal population center to a historically poor and strategically insignificant flyover state doesn't prove much.
The states with highest domestic emigration (e.g. people voting with their feet to leave) are overwhelmingly left leaning. (Except for Louisiana and Ohio)
- So progressive places make a place so desirable to live in that people are willing to compete with each other for the experience.
  
  "Why are blue states always so expensive?!". It's supply and demand. High demand to live someplace makes it expensive.
  My million dollar house is worth as much as it is because of its located near high paying jobs, good school, and good neighbors. It's expensive to live where I live because lots of people want to live here.
  
  Yeah, but it's supply and demand. I bet your million dollar home isn't next to an apartment building. Cities would be much cheaper if it weren't for NIMBYs who already own homes insisting that their homes must appreciate in value at all times.
  
  And yet Massachusetts is probably the first state with a statewide zoning overrride, allowing just that, near any transit (including buses).
  It’s too early to tell whether it will work, but one of the first examples is about to open near me
  
  There's higher demand to live in Florida and Texas. Look at the domestic immigration numbers. People are leaving CA, NY, IL and MA in droves.
  
  Yeah, crappy places are more affordable. "Look how cheap the shitty places are, let's make the whole country shitty so it is cheaper" is a strange logic. Is rather bring everything up to MA standards so the supply is higher and demand isn't driving prices up.
  
  Sure, it is known as gentrification.
  
  How is people leaving almost exclusively "progressive" places an indicator of competition?
  Look at the inverse of that chart. Most people in the country are moving to places like Florida, Texas and Idaho.
  
  Because shitty makes for cheap.
  How is this confusing?
- As an Ohioan that tracks. We’d long been the poor person’s progressive state but yeah I’m ditching to go somewhere I’m safe, even though it sucks to leave somewhere affordable
- strategically insignificant flyover state
  Cushing, OK has a bone to pick with this.
  
  Assuming that is a missile silo or something in which case I stand corrected on that front!
  
  Major petroleum marketplace. The commodity trading floor is in a big city somewhere else. But a lot of the oil actually changes hands in our around Cushing.
  
  Gotcha. FWIW I have no bone to pick with Oklahoma at all. If anything the fact that people criticize it for being a backwater probably means that it's awesome.

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