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Trump wins a second term as Democrats search for answers

www.nbcnews.com Trump wins a second term as Democrats search for answers

Trump returns to the White House as the 47th president, with Democrats stunned at their loss.

Summary

This victory makes Trump the first U.S. president to serve non-consecutive terms since Grover Cleveland and the first with a criminal conviction to hold office.

Democrats were shocked by the loss, particularly as exit polls revealed significant shifts among key demographics: Latino men favored Trump by 10 points, and more voters identified as independents or unaffiliated.

The economy was the top priority for Trump supporters, while Harris voters emphasized democracy and abortion rights.

The election also showed increased dissatisfaction with the country’s direction, as 72% of voters expressed anger or frustration.

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The answer was you spent the last 3 months fucking your chances by chasing republican votes instead of rallying your own base. Its not rocket science. That shit was not inspiring.
- Not only that, it was clear Trump was gaining voters because he said, "yeah, shit's fucked, I'll change it" and the Dems kept insisting "it's really not that bad". To people who have it hard, one party telling you that you're just wrong and nothing will change, and the other saying they'll change things for the better is a pretty obvious choice. Even if they're lying about making it better, it's already bad, and your other option is the same bad, why not give it a try?
  
  Seriously, it was easy to see this election was going to whoever was promising extreme changes. The Democrats once again lost an easy victory because... Well I'm gonna be real Idfk. How the fuck you not have this in the bag?
  "I'll make homes affordable again by banning investment housing and corporate ownership"
  "I'll end the wars in Israel, and I'll help Ukraine knock our oldest enemy for the cheap, saving American lives."
  "And I'll fucking invigorate the middle class by tying minimum wage to inflation, guaranteeing you won't fall behind."
  Its that easy. Say that shit, and when asked what you'd do differently than your predecessor, always say "a lot". It gives you an opportunity to attack easy problems. I've lost all of my mind at this. I have no idea how the Democrats do this shit every fucking time.
  
  I have no idea how the Democrats do this shit every fucking time.
  Oh it's simple. They're paid by billionaires not to.
  The Democratic party hasn't been like that for 30+ years, at least the 90s. They're a fiscally conservative party, and socially liberal. The only "liberal" part of the party is on issues that affect people like LGBTQ support or abortion, not anything dealing with the country or economy. The US hasn't had an actual liberal party for decades, as soon as they started accepting billions in donor funds.
  
  Fuck it, let's start one right now and be so loud these next four years Trump sends us to one of his camps he'll be opening soon. Anything, my mind is screaming and I'm not doing this again. I want a real fucking Left over here that actually cares and I want Citizens United to eat fucking dirt. This is much too exhausting and maddening to see year after year as shit continues to get worse and the rich get richer. I half hope the Earth collapses within the next five years just so these denier fucks can feel her wrath. But obv thats not a good line of thought.
  
  I'm stating to see the perspective of Ye Wenjie in 3 Body Problem when she effectively tells the aliens to come destroy humanity, because we've fucked it up.
  
  Same. I'm so distraught that I am considering industrial sabotage just to potentially buy the future a few more minutes. Or maybe just to feel like for once I have some control over what happens in my life instead of some dickhead with way too much money that I've never met.
  
  Because their owners won't allow them to fuck with their wealth.
- Exactly this. Meanwhile food prices are high, homes and rents are unaffordable, and healthcare sucks, and tuition is through the roof. Biden sending billions to fund a genocide while all of this shit was happening at home was the demotivation people needed to stay home.
- Did you choose not to vote Harris? Because I still voted for Harris
  
  I gritted my teeth and voted for her but as soon as she started touting the Rubes endorsing her I knew it was over. How fucking hard can it be to just be progressive? Its that fucking simple.
  
  Progressive doesn't get you anywhere in America
  
  How would you know, we haven't had a viable progressive party in decades. We've only had conservative and diet-conservative. Turns out that's not a winning move. I don't even know how we go about fixing the country at this point, but a top to bottom overhaul of the DNC couldn't possibly hurt.
  
  That's exactly my point. Hell Oregon has a progressive party and they can't win local elections in supposedly a progressive state.
  
  It sure as hell looks like going the other direction worked /s
  
  Because the country has moved further right than the 90s/early 2000s Republicans
  
  It verifiably hasn't. Votes for Trump have remained constant for the last 2 elections. He is not gaining supporters, the Democrats are losing supporters.
  
  There's definitely nothing right of Democrats and left of Trump lol
  
  ...so whoever didn't vote Haris effectively voted trump... we've been saying it along that all of that moaning about Dems would lead to Rep win. here it is on display
  
  This is literally the exact same tired tactic used about 2016; attack and blame the left, instead of the neoliberals, moderates, centrists, corporations, or 70 million people who voted for fascism. It is a manufactured PsyOp, that has achieved the exact opposite of what you want 2/3 times.
  Trying to blame and shame the left into voting the way you want has failed 66% of the time. You can either learn from it, or continue repeating the same mistakes... it's not like the left's gonna care. They blame you, and enjoy the schadenfreude of your failures.
  
  Funny, because it sure got Obama fucking elected. Even though the DNC didn't support him in '08 and would have preferred the nomination going to Hillary. Even though even he is pretty milquetoast as far as progressives go, his campaign was more successful than anything else the Dems have done in a decade.
  A black man offered change and universal healthcare and the U.S. gave him 8 years.
  
  Obama was not and is not a progressive
  
  ...in Canada?
  
  Making assumptions based on instance I see

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