4mo ago

Stance on conflict

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Biden says the same stuff as Kamala...
I'm sure she'll handle it better than Biden, and absolutely better than trump would.
But I just don't think she'll do enough, which is disappointing because "enough" is just cutting off aid money and weapons sales until they stop actively committing a genocide.
If they need aid to defend against Lebanon or Iran in an actual war, maybe they should stop committing a genocide at the same time?
Really seems like if Israel was actually concerned with defense, they wouldn't spend so much time bombing refugees.
- I think the real talk is that she's a little better than Biden, but Biden is pretty bad. It's hard to say what she would be doing because i get the feeling she's holding back out of desire to not undermine Biden's policies. I'm not anticipating much change overall, though. Sadly, we're all left watching the genocide.
- I’m sure she’ll handle it better than Biden, and absolutely better than trump would.
  Hoped that, but DNC killed that hope :(
  
  If you think there's even a chance of Kamala being as bad as Biden in this regard, you haven't been paying attention to just how bad Biden is with Israel.
  He literally has no line, and has been publicly saying for 50 years absolutely nothing would ever make him lessen his support for Israel.
  And he fucking means it.
  
  Kamala will be the same as Biden on practically every issue
  Which overall, is fine.
  But on this issue of genocide, is damning
  
  what exactly do you mean by "damning"? Like you're not going to vote for her? Because the alternative is Trump who will be even worse.
  
  I don't see her changing what's currently policy, so status quo will continue.
  
  She can't do anything until/if she assumes office as president.
  Especially with Biden as president, literally nothing else matters. He literally went around congress to avoid like a week delay.
  Now she could say she's going to be stricter on Israel, and it would probably gain some votes in the right states to have an effect.
  But what would definitely happen is AIPAC would give just an unthinkable amount of money to trump.
  That would 100% happen if they have the slightest doubts in the Dem party.
  So like I've said:
  She won't be great. But she's better than trump or Biden and we frankly have no option other than voting for her and hoping public opinion affects her position more than donor money immediately after an election.
  
  Like I said, can hope but not that hopeful.

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