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and then what? have the same fractional migration of users to yet another small corner of the internet?
Why not just collectively reject ads and fight for the spaces we have left instead.
- I am rejecting add, that's why I'm on Lemmy hahaha
- Why not just collectively reject ads and fight for the spaces we have left instead.
  How? Just say no?
  
  Hell ya. That works.
  Be aware of ads. Not just the ones that are obvious. Be aware of the guy on your favorite GOT thrones instance posting about these cool new shirts he found online. Be skeptical of the ads right before Christmas where the viral video also has the same uncanny product placement of the full label in view of the camera as the girl jumps on the trampoline. Be aware. And then call it out.
  Hell if you truly want to go back to OG internet go the Chicago way. Every ad you find, create 2 anti ads yourself saying how that t-shirt looks cool but you bought it and it ripped easily, after all if it isn't an ad who cares. If you see people posting a temu night light, maybe you knew someone who had one but it burned down their house. Fuck these ads up. They took our internet and turned it into a swap meet. Counter advertise.
  Use their tactics against them. Counter advertising works as a test to see where your favorite sites are headed. Reddit would ban accounts by the end who were screwing with their ad spaces.
  And let's get back to the idea of people being sellouts
  
  I don't think this is an answer for a systemic level problem.
  
  Why not?
  It's probably the only way. If ads work by being inconspicuous and manipulates people by making us believe we need something we don't by making us feel inadequate and scared and envious through cultural appeals why wouldn't it work in reverse by making more people aware what ads are and secondly by showing people these products suck. If every ad dollar needs to risk having counter advertising they will stop or just make it legal or ban everyone who does it with the help of admin and mods. Either way it's a win for all of us systematically.
  We all shit post already. What's an extra few comments to call out the people who have ruined all our favorite places.
  
  You're asking people to individually act against a systemic issue every time they see it.
  
  Don't we do that everyday with crazier and less important things.
  I just watched a 40 min video online where 4chan collectively trolled tumbler over Steven universe skin color.
  
  Because they organized their racism, and it was a single event.
  
  Only one time?
  Definitely wasn't one time. 4chan has been spreading organized racism and culture jamming for decades
  Seem like you're saying we can organize culture only when it's to be racist or when its making someone else money. It's not even organizing. It's spreading the idea that ads are out of control and how they're responsible for the enshitification we see today.
  
  Definitely wasn't one time. 4chan has been spreading organized racism and culture jamming for decades
  Not by mass individual acts, but organizing.
  Seem like you're saying we can organize culture only when it's to be racist or when its making someone else money. It's not even organizing. It's spreading the idea that ads are out of control and how they're responsible for the enshitification we see today.
  Your examples have been organized, but your advocating for mass individual action. Advocate for organized action.
  
  Wasn't organized. It was all shit posting ideas that they agreed was funny and they individually acted on it. Same for everything else you see online. Its all memes.
  Meme an element of a culture or system of behavior passed from one individual to another by imitation or other nongenetic means.
  verb

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