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- Cherry picked statistic of transgender suicide rate. They only look at that number, but never why that number is so high.
  It's almost like constant bullying has a major effect on people's mental health
  
  Man that number is high
  
  It's also not the suicide rate. It's either the has attempted suicide at least once in their life rate or the thought about it rate. Can't quite remember which, but definitely not the suicide rate.
  
  Even including attempts that's high as shit. Thought about it, then it might not be that high, depending on how serious the thought have to be.
  
  I'm fairly certain it's attempts now that I've looked at it again. It's been a long time since I've read breakdowns of the studies and what the numbers all mean. It wasn't as simple as 41% of trans people attempt suicide. The numbers went down post transition and I don't think suicide attempts had to be serious attempts to be counted (I think it's worth nitpicking this).
  Edit: Tried finding the survey the number comes from and got a bunch of different responses that are just confusing me more at this point. I'm probably done here, since researching suicide statistics isn't a ton of fun.
  
  That's understandable
  
  Who hasn't thought about suicide even once in their life? I mean really.
  
  A bit of the call of the void every now and then keeps you on the edge
  
  Thought? Sure. But this was "attempted", which is way past thinking of it
  
  Yeah but like in a "how could you do that" kind of way, not an "actually considering it" kind of way.
  
  And if it is the suicide rate there's no way it isn't massively skewed by doing some fuckery about who is counted.
  
  Like me in high school.
  
  Is that referring to 41%, 41 per 1000, or some other metric entirely? Either way it's too damn high, but I'm curious and I don't know how to go about researching it without potentially making the almighty algorithm think I'm anti-trans.
  
  Percent
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  Specifically, it's percent of adults who have attempted, not completed. I don't think anyone in this thread is suggesting it's the latter, but that was my first thought when I saw the statistic so I thonk it's an important thing to note.
  
  Thank you, I agree that it's an important distinction to make. Having only been able to read the abstract of the linked article, do you perhaps have any information on the number of completed attempts compared to unsuccessful attempts?
  I hope it goes without saying that even a single attempt is too many, and any completed attempts are devastating tragedies that don't reflect kindly on our current society.
  
  Thank you, that is absolutely heart-wrenching.
  
  It certainly is. I know my sister has tried multiple times at this point and that's with support of loved ones and friends. She is also fortunate to have always had access to her medication needs.
  
  I sincerely hope that she has been trending in a positive direction. I'm glad to hear that her attempts have been unsuccessful, and that she has good love, support, and (hopefully helpful) medication in her life.
  I imagine the knowledge of your sister struggling and suffering is hard on you too, and I wish the best for both of you.
  
  After many years of suffering she's finally on a upward trend. Engaged and planning for the future for the first time in at least a decade.
  
  Well, 41 would imply 41/1 = 41, so...
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  I don't understand, could you please elaborate?
  x = x/1 = x is true for all numbers, no?
  
  I mean to say that
  41 implies 41/1 instead of 41/100 (41%) or 41/1000.
  So 41 attempts per person.
  It is supposed to be my attempt at humour.
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  I'm sorry, I hope I didn't offend you.
  I'm still not sure if I understand the intended joke. An average of 41 attempts per person sounds horrific. I'm sure there is something that's going over my head, it's some kind of dark humor, correct?
  
  I dunno. Maybe I'm just bad at making jokes, but you got the point.
  41/1 = 4100/100 = 4100%
  Weereas,
  41% = 41/100 = 0.41
  
  Thank you for explaining.
  
  41% is awful. I had no idea it was this high.

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