Exclusive: Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump
Sen. Bernie Sanders sounds off on the Israel-Hamas war, antisemitism, college protests, and President Joe Biden’s record while in office
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Young people? How about Democrat party leadership? If you need certain people to vote for you, then you have to earn their votes! How is this so hard to understand?
Because the side that benefits from voter apathy is relying on that exact ‘wall of noise’ media coverage to disenfranchise enough voters to get their preferred candidate in.
The amount of damage that Trump was able to inflict upon the United States in his term (3 Supreme Court picks, countless lower court picks); he will deliver a killing blow if given the opportunity.
As hyperbolic as it sounds, this could very well be the least legitimate Presidential election should he succeed.
“Both Sides Bad” is a 4Chan-level talking point concocted by the right, to obfuscate all the good that has been implemented over the past four years - even without all the roadblocks the GOP keeps putting in the way.
Is the system so weak that one president can break it? If so then it is already broken. If Trump is able to leverage presidential power to such effect, then why isn't Biden able to do the same? I think the word apathy obscures how a lot of non-voters feel. Give people some credit for their political motivations, even if they may present as lack of motivation.
Democracy is fragile, and requires buy-in from a majority of politicians to maintain.
The GOP have been evil for longer than you’ve been alive; and their grand scheme has always been “to shrink the Government down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub”. They are not in a position to do it.
The Trump presidency brought to light a flaw in the existing systems, that a lot of processes and regulations weren’t sufficiently bound by law, but rather protocol.
In that, one bad actor with support from their political party could ignore norms and standards set previously to withhold judicial appointments in an election year to deprive Obama of a seat, and then completely ignore that precedent when it happened again to Trump, giving him a 3rd appointment after one term.
Could/should Biden try something similar? Perhaps, and in some ways he is (student debt forgiveness) - but he now faces an uphill struggle against an openly hostile Supreme Court which has already proved to have no care for precedent either (e.g. overturning Rowe v. Wade).
Just remember, it takes a lot less time to destroy something, than it was to build it in the first place.
I just don't think the Democrats are up to the task of saving democracy (if that's what we even have). I think it's an indictment of them as a party that they struggle to achieve decisive wins against the totally kookoo Republicans.
because that attitude only helps the objectively more horrible politicians. how is this so hard to understand?
Demand more from your leaders than "less horrible".
stakes are far too high to have the luxury of this brain dead take.
Stakes are so high, but Dem leadership believes that supporting a genocide is more important than winning an election? Talk about brain dead.
how about refusing to acknowledge that repubs would do the same or worse with this situation? no sane person thinks the situation is great. but brain dead is making a voting issue out of this when it isn't one.
I'm trying to convince essentially one guy to stop supporting genocide. People like you have the unenviable task of convincing millions of people to vote for a guy who currently supports genocide. The election isn't happening tomorrow, why don't you put your efforts into convincing your party leaders to adopt saner positions rather than bullying people who are genuinely and rightly outraged at what our country is and isn't doing in regards to it's support of Israel?
once again, you're making this into a voting issue when it isn't one because neither party is interested in taking your preferred stance. naturally, withholding a vote because of this makes no sense especially when the stakes on other important issues are so high.
I understand how strongly you feel about this issue. I agree with your feelings about it. I would love to see the Israeli govt get pulverised for what they are doing. and it is objectively atrocious in every way that they are supported.
I can also use my brain to logically determine that refusing to vote dem is likely to put power into the hands of those who will do worse both on this specific issue and many others. voting for Biden might not make it better, but doing anything else will definitely make it worse. and that's the brain dead choice.
The brain dead choice is allowing yourself to be literally without political agency. I have a list of things I care about, and there isn't really anything higher than "not doing genocide". I'm never going to change my mind about that, and I'm never going to listen to anyone who says "of course genocide is bad, but...". Are you making your opposition to genocide known to your party leaders? Are you supporting efforts to get them to notice the significance of electorate opposition to genocide? Your efforts are better spent doing that kind of thing over the coming months, than arguing with me.
which is the definition of ideological to a fault.
you're falsely equating voting dem for justifying genocide. they are not the same. one can be actively working against it and still vote blue, recognizing that any other action likely promotes genocide and more terrible things.