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Only if climate change doesn't kill us all first:-)
- I feel like that's a big part of the worse
  
  Oh yes for sure. Climate change won't kill us directly and it won't be fast, at least not at the start. First we will have wars for food and water that will become scarce, those that survive will live in an post apocalyptic hellscape with no law or healthcare. This will happen over generations, with billions of deaths
  
  Yeah but then we get cool mad max shit. All I'm saying is there's pros and cons
  
  Well I cannot argue against Mad Max... I'm too scared to!
  
  Every time I read water is going to become scarce I'm required to ask, where do you think it will go?
  I myself am convinced water management will become a much larger (already huge) problem, along with erosion and flooding, but water is only going to become scarce if we pollute the shit out of where water accumulates. We're going to have much more violent storms, and much higher levels of rainfall because when the water evaporates from higher ocean temperatures it's going to have to come down somewhere, but I don't know where water scarcity comes into the forecast, maybe you can tell me?
  
  Here in brazil, home of the largest rainforest in the world, dry spells have become more common and they last longer and longer. We are the country with the largest fresh water reserves in the world and we had to ration water a few years ago. Global warming fucks with the water cycles, ocean levels rising mean that more water is being 'stored' as salt water, which is undrinkable and expensive to filter.
  
  It is an age-old question: which is worse, slavery, or death?
  In South America, the textile mills ran through slaves at such a rapid pace that they kept having to constantly import new ones from Africa. They would lose not just appendages but whole entire limbs to the machines, and people only have so many of those! Ofc the capitalists could have made improvements to the machines but... why bother, when slaves were fairly cheap?
  In North America, working in the cotton fields was much more bearable - an Irish indentured servant might not be able to handle it, but someone with skin adapted to that level of sun had fewer problems with it. Yet, arguably this became even worse than the textile mills, bc it allowed a stable population of the slaves, which led to a generational form of slavery where these were thought of not just as people who were slaves, but as closer to cattle that could be bred as such. The "three fifths of a person" rule is quite illuminating as to how they were thought of: not even merely one notch down, but barely more than half, as in looks like a person bodily (e.g. opposable thumbs) but isn't one, not really.
  But now with Globalization and Automation, instead of finding new groups of "other" people (even robots), it will be basically all of us who are fair game to become enslaved. Already we are dividing up into those who show a willingness to exploit others vs. those who will be trampled upon - i.e. the only other option to being a slave is to become a slaver, aka there are far worse things than death:-(. ☠️
  
  I know war is hell but in a big existential way I feel even more scared of climate change.
  Climate change won't completely end our world but it will make it permanently worse, At least eventually something can come back after war.

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