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Supreme Court prepares to kill same sex marriage in America

www.peoplesworld.org Supreme Court prepares to kill same sex marriage in America

WASHINGTON—Derogation of same-sex marriage by right-wing Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito in a statement he made this week regarding a Missouri court case underlines the danger that the High Court is preparing to end same sex marriage, the second time it would reverse a constitutional right in t.....

"Making matters worse, if Trump is elected this year he could veto any congressional attempt to reverse such a disastrous ruling of the Court by passing a law guaranteeing same sex marriage rights."

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Question because my reading comprehension is bad: would this kill same-sex marriage nationwide, or would it just allow red states to say they won't recognize it? Not to say the latter isn't bad, I'm just curious if this would fuck over my ability to even get married in, say, Washington or Oregon.
- Yeah, it essentially makes it a state issue, and each state can ban, or not, and choose to recognize marriages from other states, or not. So if you got married in Washington that might allow same-sex marriage and respect marriages from other states, and then you move to e.g. Tennessee that banned it and didn't recognize out of state marriages, your marriage essentially wouldn't exist there. I also imagine for the case of emergencies and whatnot, if you were traveling through such a state, you wouldn't be recognized as spouses, making it literally a life or death issue for travel.
  It's very, very bad.
  
  Holy shit, I didn't draw up the situation of travelling while married as a problem but you're absolutely right. It's already getting extremely tricky to figure out what places are OK or no-go for trans and NB people, this is just going to make things so much more fucking worse.
  Atlanta for example is a massive air travel hub. What if Georgia doesn't uphold same-sex marriage? What about international travellers who are married abroad?
  JFC. These idiots.
  
  Shows how sheltered I am, but it never occurred to be that same-sex couples from other countries might have trouble traveling in the US because of this. I just thought of this as an American problem.
  That said, I started boycotting tourism to the United States in the Bush administration and haven't been back since. My passport even expired over a decade ago.
  
  What an excellent scheme to keep talents away from entering the red states for a job.
  
  It sounds odd but that’s the point. Educated voters vote democrat.
  
  Which drives prices in those states down.
  Which makes them attractive to new businesses, and existing businesses expanding.
  Which means they'll start trickling into those now-cheap red states.
  Which means that folks who need jobs will have to start at least considering moving to and living in those states.
  The only thing that abhors a vacuum more strongly than Nature is Money.
  
  Current federal law requires states to recognize all marriages, including same-sex marriages, from other states but does not require them to issue licenses within their state. The previous Supreme Court had determined the constitution required states to do so, but that could be overturned. They could also decide the federal law is unconstitutional, but that is less likely.
- Maybe even that depends on the judges.

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