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"But my friend runs a PinePhone as a daily driver"

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"Android is already a Linux phone" They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
- But it isn't GNU/Linux https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.html
  
  ... or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux
  
  Yes, but it is Linux. OP doesn't mention GNU.
  
  That's like saying you run FreeBSD because you have a PlayStation 5 though.
  It's so far removed people associate it as something different entirely.
- Android devices run deprecated Linux kernels that have a bunch of proprietary binary blobs plopped onto them, so technically "Linux", but not an easily updateable mainline kernel like most people are referring to when talking about "Linux."
  
  OK then call it what it is. You want a FOSS Linux phone.
  
  Linux is FOSS. Android is based on Linux. Android is not Linux.
  
  Uh you know that Debian isn't just Linux either right? It's based on Linux. The same way that Android is.
  
  Debian is GNU/Linux and that's what almost always people mean when they say Linux. Android is not GNU/Linux and doesn't even use the mainline Linux kernel - just some old, heavily modified version.
  Mobian or Manjaro ARM on the other hand are GNU/Linux distributions. They run the same software that you can run on your desktop distro.
  
  Moving the goalposts. We weren't talking about GNU. Not all Linux distributions use GNU.
  
  Not all Linux distributions use GNU.
  Almost all popular ones do.
  
  lol so now popularity matters?
- Not in the way they're talking.

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