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"But my friend runs a PinePhone as a daily driver"

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Okay look I get what we're trying to say here but would it be problematic if I pointed out that Android is also running Linux?
- It’s a valid point, but unfortunately your non bullshit options are limited to replacing the OS with something like Graphene or Lineage.
  The powers that be REALLY want your data.
  
  I thought you could just use the Android open source project? I thought the tracking was mostly baked into Google's flavor of Android not the open source product
  
  I don’t know if a phone that uses the open source version as base. Usually they build off open source or google and add in all the manufacturer/carrier bloat. For me to get off One Plus’s built in OS I had to go through this whole process on their website to get the code to unlock the boot loader.
  I have lineage os as a replacement and it’s really cool. My mobile internet stopped working on it though :( my next phone is gonna roll with Graphene
  
  lineage is significantly more polished than aosp
- And lo, the Apocrypha were born, for they spoke the truth that no man dare admitt, lest they be marked an apostate.
- i use Arch btw
  
  I use GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux btw
  
  Same, on desktop and mobile. I don't know if it's funny or sad that a community called "linuxmemes" can't tell the difference between Linux, GNU/Linux and Android.
- Isn't that like claiming all Linux, Android and MacOS are just UNIX?
  
  I mean not technically.. those products use a separent kernel that has its own development path away from the Linux kernel. Linux is just a compatible Unix kernel but I wouldn't classify it as a Unix operating system since it diverges into its own thing. Android still uses the Linux kernel not some piece of code that they developed and not some commercial Unix product
  
  Not if they don't share any heritage with Unix. Osx is the only one that fits the bill there.
  
  It also counts in the other way: Apple licensed the UNIX™ trademark.
  
  GNU is a recursive acronym for "GNU's Not Unix!",[6][12] chosen because GNU's design is Unix-like, but differs from Unix by being free software and containing no Unix code.[6][13][14] Stallman chose the name by using various plays on words, including the song The Gnu.[4]: 45:30
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU
- See, this is why, yet again, Stallman was right: insisting on "GNU/Linux" is necessary in order to disambiguate between the fully-Free Software OS and bastardized half-proprietary stuff like Android.
  
  Exactly. Even in this community and in this post people keep mixing Linux, GNU/Linux and Android. It's crazy that even people who use this operating system are confused. Almost always when they say Linux they really mean GNU/Linux. Linux Mint or Arch Linux are GNU/Linux. But Android isn't and it doesn't even use the mainline Linux kernel.
  The issue of freedom is a separate thing, because even most GNU/Linux distros contain proprietary software just like Android.
- I guess most ppl who are supporting the gnu/linux phone are the ones who want a similar apple like features like how the prism os had promised to provide.

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