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US transportation head says no grounded Boeing 737 Max 9 planes will return to air ‘until it is safe’

www.theguardian.com US transportation head says no grounded Boeing 737 Max 9 planes will return to air ‘until it is safe’

Pete Buttigieg says no timeline for return of aircraft as Alaska Airlines announces cancellation of 110-150 flights each day

The US transportation secretary announced on Wednesday afternoon that no grounded Boeing 737 Max 9 would return to service “until it is safe”, after Alaska Airlines announced the cancellation of all flights on its 737 Max 9 planes at the direction of the Federal Aviation Administration.

Pete Buttigieg said he was “not putting a timeline” on when the FAA will allow the planes to resume flights.

Every plane that the US aircraft manufacturer delivers “needs to be 100% safe”, Buttigieg added.

He said he has spoken to the head of Boeing and told him the company needs to do everything it can to establish 100% confidence in its planes.

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Two groundings in less than 5 years? Boeing is trading lives for share price. Hopefully the company dies as an example of corporate greed.
- Riiiiiiight. They’ll get bailed out at worst.
  
  Someone's seen this episode before.
  
  would have to cut into that sweet defense spending first …
- Every insider said this the last time they had issues with the Max 8. Now here we are again. It absolutely infuriates me. I work for a medical device company in procurement. I've had to deal with these asshats coming in and recommending outsourcing and screwing our local vendors to save a few bucks... Then, surprise! We get shit parts, and it costs us a ton of resources to fix the issue, but hey we're"saving money" right? Some companies shouldn't be publicly traded.
  
  But I was told any option but unhindered capitalism was pure communism.
  Jesus, politicians need to grow a pair and actually help people. What do you need to do to convince them?
  
  Defenistration.
  
  Well that's a start.
  
  Being able to read Chinese characters, I had a really hard time seeing your name as you intended it...
  
  What's it say?
  
  Interesting. On kbin I just see "ElBarto". After seeing their comment I went through the original URL to see the Chinese characters.
  
  I can't see it anymore for some reason - it doesn't mean anything really but I remember the first character being 毛 which is hair haha
  
  Yeah I ended up changing it, people kept pointing it out so now I've made it clear.
  
  Same where I work. I feel like I am fighting a losing battle to keep us in control of our own products.
- It's like the first scene in fight club, where he's talking about the insurance equation. That shaped my world view then. It's accurate.
- Now if only cars had this kind of safety rating.
- I don't understand the ultra anti business vibe these days. If a company has to do lay offs (like Spotify) because they over predicted growth, it's up in arms for the worker getting screwed due corporate greed. Then we have this angle where everyone wants Boeing to die, which will result in a ton of workers losing their jobs. Why isn't the hope just the board doing their jobs, changing leadership to align with the old boeing, let workers keep their jobs, and let their stock benefits increase in value for contributing to a good company?
  
  Because that'll never happen. Boeing's board is never going to have a "change of heart". They'll keep playing with people's lives to make a quick buck until they're stopped.
  
  But the record of Boeing before the MAX has not been so bad right? Probably related, they used to be a great workplace for blue-collar workers. The excesses of greed seem to have gotten way worse recently.
  
  Boeing changed management when they merged with McDonnell Douglas. Their new management is worthless
  
  Exactly. So it's weird to see a popular sentiment be Spotify laying off 1500 is bad corporate greed. But then celebrated wishful thinking that Boeing should die due to corporate greed and put 150,000 employees out of work which is somehow good.
  
  It's not weird. A company laying off employees when they don't have to just to increase profits IS corporate greed.
  A company dieing so that other companies that have (hopefully) not yet enshittified is not mutually exclusive with the above sentiment. Also, due to the relatively inflexible market demand, any other company taking over Boeing's market share would need to absorb most of their skilled labour.
  
  So why don't you think the laid off Spotify employees will have an equally soft landing of just being absorbed into other companies?
  
  Well it's not like any other company is getting Spotify's market share and needs to scale up their infrastructure
  
  I don't understand the ultra anti business vibe these days. If a company has to do lay offs (like Spotify) because they over predicted growth, it's up in arms for the worker getting screwed due corporate greed
  Boeing gets bailed out with gov money because it's "too big to fail"
  Boeing used that money for stock buybacks
  Boeing's quality went down. This ain't the "that's weird", this is people's LIVES. People die if there's quality errors.
  Boeing lied about MCAS and 300 people paid the price.
  This is ANOTHER incident of shotty work
  This isn't anti business. Their management is fucking corrupt
  
  Because that isn't going to happen so the only remaining hope is that when they die us taxpayers don't have to bail them out too much.

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