12mo ago

New Rule: Everything I don't like is antisemitic

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Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.
- I think there is a very good argument of antisemitism if you support Hamas. There is no argument for antisemitism if you support Palestinians.
- Who the fuck supports Hamas? It's an actual terrorist organization that's oppressing people in Palestine
  
  You would be surprised. Some people are fucking insane.
  
  Every source I find suggests that Hamas has significant support from the people of Palestine
  
  Damn I wonder why the people being subjected to genocide support the group fighting the genociders?
  I just can’t work it out.
  
  You're telling me that you haven't seen those green headbands at 'peace rallys'? They're at every one I've seen on the news. Including the one where they attacked Santa LoL.
  Those are Hamas flags. Dunno what that could be other than support.... they're rocking the merch.
- Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of 'semite'. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word
  
  Hamas Charter, excerpt.
  16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
  
  if you choose to believe that Hamas is not antisemitic that's your prerogative. I only note that so long as there is a hatred of Jews the word is being used correctly.
  
  I hear both (non-settler) Jews and Christians live in Gaza, that wouldn't be possible if Hamas was all about Jew hating...
  
  Where have you heard Jews live in Gaza?
  
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Jews
  Israeli Jews is what most people think in this context
  
  After the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, the Jews of Mandatory Palestine became Israeli citizens, and the term Palestinian Jews has largely fallen into disuse and is somewhat defunct, in favour of the modern term Israeli Jews.
  It says in the wiki article that they became Israeli citizens. What are you on about?
  
  Yet people still claim the label "Palestinian Jew" - are we to deny their claim to belief?
  
  (Different commenter here.)
  I've heard there are a few Jews living among the Arab population of the West Bank. I've heard nothing about Jews living in Gaza except for Israeli colonists who have since moved out. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that non-colonist Jews would live in the occupied territories, because they are free to move to Israel by virtue of being Jews.
  There is a small population of Arab Christians living in Gaza, and I would assume in the West Bank as well, though I can't recall hearing about them specifically.
  
  I can't argue with their charter, but their actions don't reflect their words.
  
  You're not supposed to use the new one, it doesn't fit the narrative.
  /s
  
  I guess that would make Israel anti-Semitic as well.
- it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.
  Oof, either you're just grossly misinformed and performing a cringey "ackchually", or you're anti-semitic yourself and perpetuating anti-semitic rhetoric.
  While yes, both are Semitic people, the term 'anti-semitic' was specifically coined by Nazi Germany to make their genocide seem like it had a basis in science. They specifically used it to refer to Jews. Nobody uses "anti-semitic" to mean all semites except hate groups and holocaust deniers who are trying to say "see, it doesn't even mean Jews specifically! Jews are just playing the victim!"
  I will assume you're simply ignorant or misinformed, but feel free to correct me if this was actually an intentional dog-whistle.
- Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who interpret it as referring to racist hatred directed at all "Semitic people" (i.e., those who speak Semitic languages, such as Arabs, Assyrians, and Arameans). This usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus (lit. 'antisemitism') was first used in print in Germany in 1879[17] as a "scientific-sounding term" for Judenhass (lit. 'Jew-hatred'),[18][19][20][21][22] and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.

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