Nothing Chats has already been pulled from Google Play over privacy issues
Nothing pulled the Nothing Chats beta from the Google Play store “until further notice” after reports that Sunbird sends messages in plain text.
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SMS is also plain text, what's the big deal?
The premise of the app is not sending plain text messages.
E2E encryption is one of the main points of iMessage.
Giving your iCloud credentials to someone that isn’t Apple is already kind of shady. They needed the security around this product to be bullet proof. I don’t know why anyone would be quick to trust Sunbird after this.
Probably a privacy policy issue? Its okay to do stuff in plaintext, but the privacy policy must make that clear.
Literally from their FAQ
Are my messages secure? Yes, Nothing Chats is built on Sunbird’s platform and all Chats messages are end-to-end encrypted, meaning neither we nor Sunbird can access the messages you’re sending and receiving.
And regardless, if they removed this line and added privacy policy like “we do not encrypt messages and can read them whenever we like” should kill their entire platform.
No, read the article. App claimed to be end-to-end encrypted, it was anything but.
Yeah, but what about the other user who’s texting a sunbird client and thinks everything is E2E encrypted?
Security and privacy minded people dont use iMessage and not even an iPhone. The ecosystem is so close that you don't know what's going on behind just Apple.
Do you have anything substantive to say around E2EE encryption on iMessage?
The whole point of E2EE is so that a middle man, including the Apple, cannot read it. Apple has been very publicly opposed to providing encryption backdoors that could be accessed by Apple, law enforcement, etc. Backdoors usually get sniffed out and become widespread security vulnerabilities.
Thats their marketing strategy. Selling you a device no one can spy you except us. ;)
That’s not how E2EE works. If they did have a back door, that would eventually get exploited and we’d all learn about it.
