The state of the discourse.

I think they're aiming for plan B. Commit genocide so there's no one left who maintains that ideology.

The trouble is, the reason Hamas and similar groups exist it that Israel exists. Many people in Palestine, and also people in neighbouring countries and many Muslims who aren't even directly involved, believe that the whole place should be a pure Muslim country. I've literally seen people protest for this on the streets here. How do you suggest that solution should be enforced?

They will not accept a country that has women and LGBTQ rights, music festivals, etc. in between them. They protested and attacked these targets for a reason for several decades now.

I just wish the people who wish for the reason Hamas exists to be gone would at least be honest about all the consequences it entails. Otherwise this is just a very comfortable position of moral high ground where people can claim they protect the victims but they won't think any further.

eliminate the reason why it exists.

Well I think everybody knows exactly how to do that then, and it's the exact opposite of what's happening right now.

It's almost like Israel and it's supporters are shocked that a resistance movement formed in response to them murdering civilians and destroying homes of innocent families. Maybe it's not the moral response, but no one can claim to be surprised by it.

Curious to know if you think shooting down United 93 on 9/11 would have been the right thing to do or not? (had the US Airforce got there in time). What say you?

Will the criminals take more hostage if we don't act? Are the hostage takers willing to return the hostages safely? Is it feasible to attempt a rescue operation that doesn't just put many more at risk? Does this criminal organization's continued existence have a human life cost to it?

Not the same thing. The hostage takers in your example are only posing a danger to the hostages themselves. There is no outside harm caused by deciding not to act. Hamas on the other hand poses a real danger to Israel. Not counter attacking Hamas would result in attacks on Israeli citizens, so Israel has to act. Hamas is using the hospital as an unethical way of shielding itself from such counter attacks because they know Western war philosophy aims to minimize civilian casualties, so attacks on hospitals hurt Israels global support. However, by operating from within a hospital, Hamas are making the hospital a valid military target. Minimizing civilian casualties goes both ways. You don't attack hospitals unless they are a valid military target and you don't set up military operations inside hospitals so as to prevent them from becoming valid military targets.

People aren't animals, though. They can take responsibility for their own decisions.

Also, where do you draw the line? You could take the same argument the other way around and claim Israel doesn't actually commit war crimes. It's because most of them are Jewish and they have been mass murdered multiple times throughout human history. They are now just fighting tooth and nail for having a safe place at least once in history.

It doesn't work to be on one side if people want to resolve this conflict. Unless you literally want the other side to be completely annihilated.

Your bias is obvious, be more subtle.