1y ago

this

did i say mildly i meant want to nuke it from orbit

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I don't think the average person understands how advanced bots have become at bypassing captchas now. Users will see this and be upset, and understandably so, but I'm telling you there is a big problem right now and devs are having trouble keeping up.
- That’s nice, they should think about average people with learning disabilities and how hard it is for them to keep up.
  
  Yeah, but, there's probably not any way to make this easier while still stopping bots. Either they do no captcha and you can't compete with all the non-humans using whatever service, or they do this. Pick your poison.
  
  Who said no captcha? This is an asinine argument.
  
  I did. Really, it's a binary choice. Uncomfortably hard captcha, or no captcha. Ineffective captcha wastes everyone's time.
  Maybe you have an idea for one that will still be effective while being easier, but I don't, and apparently they, the professionals, don't either. Until such a system surfaces, this is it.
  
  Numerical processing disorders are fairly common and it will be interesting watching devs handle class action lawsuits when they make captchas so difficult for a portion of the population that they effectively get locked out. This isn’t a difficult concept, and they can come up with something better than this. Your responses ignore the reality for disabled individuals.
  
  and they can come up with something better than this
  I bet they can't. Soon enough they probably are just going to have to accept some users will be bots.
  
  If that’s the reality so be it, but making existing accounts and services inaccessible to those with processing disorders will likely be even worse for them in the long run if they keep turning out these kind of captchas.
  
  I understand what you are saying but I do not think making services inaccsessible for a part of the population will be worst in the long run. As the OP of this threat said, bots are a hugh problem. Even with moderate resources a motivated party can do a lot of harm if allowed to have their bots to have access to the service, misinformation is the danger that readily comes to mind. In that sense is easier and more effective -not better or fair- to restrict the access for some, and catch most of bots.
  But at the end of the day is all futile, AI will be able to solve most -if not all of- these puzzles soon enough. The best solution imo is to let the bots in, teach people how to read critally and how to cool down before speaking/posting.
  But from a bussiness point of view educating people is not very palatable in most cases.
  
  You should stuff that comment back up your ass where it came from.
- The acceleration I'm seeing now makes me think we've reached a terminal point. There will be no way to tell humans from bots quickly, cheaply and anonymously soon, and services will just have to adapt or die.
- Google's approach of just monitoring your behaviour in the browser is still the most humane and it pisses me off that you literally have to serve all your data to them so they can even decide to serve you with their ads.

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