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'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'

www.bbc.com 'I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours'

An extraordinary warning call to a Palestinian dentist starts the panicked evacuation of a Gazan neighbourhood.

By Alice Cuddy BBC News, Jerusalem

The call to Mahmoud Shaheen came at dawn.

It was Thursday 19 October at about 06:30, and Israel had been bombing Gaza for 12 days straight.

He'd been in his third-floor, three-bedroom flat in al-Zahra, a middle-class area in the north of the Gaza Strip. Until now, it had been largely untouched by air strikes.

He'd heard a rising clamour outside. People were screaming. "You need to escape," somebody in the street shouted, "because they will bomb the towers".

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I corrected myself. You are not a minority in the world, as I don't know the numbers and there are clearly a lot of sympathizers of the Palestinian cause in England, Spain, France and the US. I don't even know what is going on in the rest of the world.
I can only empathize with the writer's original emotion of feeling like a persecuted minority.
EDIT I retract my use of the word "Persecuted". At best, this is lack of tolerance.
- You’d think as an oppressed minority in the world, you’d be more outraged at Israel for their continued oppression of Palestinians. I know plenty of other Jews that feel this way.
  
  Who says I don't? Israel should definitely stop the settlements, push to join the Palestinians into the abrahamic accords, do what they can to bring actual peace instead of placating their religious fanatics for an easy vote.
  I said I support Israel. In which I meant that I support Israel's fight against Hamas. Yes, that entails hurting civilians. Yes, that is a sad state of affairs.
  
  Almost no one out there is supporting Hamas, and if you unilaterally support Israel, you are anti-Palestinian. The fact that you think fighting Hamas includes indiscriminately bombing civilians shows you are in support of the ongoing genocide of an ethnic minority. And to call yourself a minority to try to gain sympathy is pathetic at best. The KKK is also a minority, so by your logic, we should all try to sympathize with their plight.
  
  Almost no one out there is supporting Hamas, and if you unilaterally support Israel, you are anti-Palestinian.
  You are willfully ignoring my last comment to give your strawman some hay.
  The fact that you think fighting Hamas includes indiscriminately bombing civilians shows you are in support of the ongoing genocide of an ethnic
  minority Strawman, I never said that the IDF should or is bombing indiscriminately. That is YOUR belief and you're forcing it upon my words.
  And to call yourself a minority to try to gain sympathy is pathetic at best.
  Yet another misunderstanding. I didn't say that to garner sympathy. I said that to make the point that this situation is just a classical case of the Majority's tyranny. Granted, @risk suffered it worse, but the situation is just two sides of the same coin except I hang around in Lemmy and he hangs around in News websites.
  The KKK is also a minority, so by your logic, we should all try to sympathize with their plight. Oh look, it's your favorite rhetorical instrument. A strawman.
- imagine hearing a neo nazi talk like you do. That's how people are starting to associate Israel and their genocide.
  You aren't a persecuted minority, you're just a person that willingly doesn't want to understand so the hate can continue. What is happening is clearly not okay to anyone with even a hint of a moral compass.
  
  I don't think criticizing Israel is wrong here, nor do I wish for more civilian bloodshed. I do, however, see the end of the war with Hamas no longer being able to actively threat Israel a legitimate goal.
  Why does that mean I'm a Nazi?
  
  I brought up neo Nazis so you would understand that you are as much a persecuted minority as they are. By supporting Israel and not criticizing them loudly, you are encouraging more civilian bloodshed.
  I never outright called you a nazi, but you are someone that supports a racist apartheid state that is currently in the middle of a genocide. It's not a good look.
  I know it's hard to realize that all the truths you were raised on were lies, that even family members can be downright evil in what they say and hope for. You can either keep the cycle going or be an adult about it.

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