i find it's a great tool.

Then when it gets to 180 it just adds 180 more seconds.

This is giving me PTSD flashbacks...

Lol virgin systemd can't even properly kill -9

Wooow, 180 seconds (which probably won't even get to timeout) when shutting down my computer. My life is ruined forever because I had to wait sooooo much. /sarc

Tell that to my ups battery
- My sibling in satan if 2 minutes is enough to murdercide your UPS battery, you need a new battery. 💀
  
  Tell that to my laptop when I'm at the airport and boarding.
  It's the same with windows - push power button, "Windows is installing some updates, do not turn off y.." (screen goes blank from the forced shutdown as I continue to hold the power button)
  If I'm turning off my computer, I'm turning it off for a reason. Any delay gets in the way of my reason nearly 100 percent of the time.
  
  You don't turn off/restart at the end of every day when you get off your computer for the day??
  
  Nope. Not when my laptop is connected to my monitors/dock at home. The screen locks, the monitors time out and power off, everything else remains on/dormant. When travelling with it, it just hibernates.
  If I had a desktop PC and it had fans/etc I would probably hibernate it rather than shut it down. As I understand it windows tends to do this by default these days as well.
  
  Just close the lid and let it go to standby? No problemo.
  
  Would be nice, but it (that is, windows in this case) won't go to standby because by the time you get to the shutdown/update stage, power management is shut off.
  Instead it turns into a lovely mini furnace in its pocket in my travel bag until windows deems that it has finished.
  Edit: and that's what I find alarming. Once , I just hit the power button and closed my laptop and got on the plane, and about 15 minutes later I went to get something from my bag in the overhead compartment before we took off. Holy shit, was my laptop hot, and it was 70 percent through an update. Presumably it was throttling due to heat and the throttling was making the updates even slower so it was a vicious cycle.
  
  Apologies, I will literally never be able to relate to this entire line of thinking. If I'm at an airport and it's close to boarding time, my laptop has already been shut down ten minutes ago because when I first hear the announcement I see that as 'computer time is over' and consider this just generally the smart thing to do (... And you can just hibernate or disable wifi/bluetooth and leave the thing on anyway)
  Generally if I'm turning off my computer I understand that as something that could take a minute or three because a small wait is not this huge dramatic thing y'all make it out to be.
  
  cheering for your president of the world election
  
  It's not a dramatic thing for me personally. 90 percent of the time my laptop politely sleeps when I ask it to, the remaining 10 percent of the time it's going to sleep regardless of its opinion on the matter.
  Small edit: I have sometimes been the unlucky recipient of a bundle of windows updates that that 15-20 minutes to complete. One thing about Linux distros, they don't pull that kind of stunt in shutdown.
  And lucky you to be able to not have any last minute things to deal with at the airport that get foisted upon you by clients / coworkers. Computer time is never over.
  
  2 minutes might not be, but 27 minutes is.
  Source: accidentally hot removed a drive that was mounted. Systemd was not thrilled.
  
  I would be a sassy cunt and say something about how you shoulda known better, but also oof. I relate.