1y ago

I had a journey

Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

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Yeah, I love the FOSS philosophy and I would be a communist if I didn't know that in my country and in every other country where communism is/was, it became a dictatorship doing reallly horrible things. I simply don't have the trust in people to believe communism is possible without violation of human rights. It's sad.
- in every other country where communism is/was
  There is not a single country that has achieved communism.
  
  Sorry then, I should have written In every other country ruled by communists saying they are building communism, banning every other political party then the communist one, killing people in the name of communism. I see their unability to achieve communism even when they've had full control over country for decades as a proof of that it's not really possible.
  
  It is incorrect to say that there was/is communism in the country. There are only countries that trying/tried building communism.
  In every other country ruled by communists saying they are building communism, banning every other political party then the communist one, killing people in the name of communism
  Having a single party is the one of several approaches. But the only one that survived. I think the idea is that you don't need other parties if you building communism (like why do you need any liberal party driven by rich people?). And It's not like regular people can't join this party (unlike now when only rich people can be in politics).
  proof of that it’s not really possible.
  I’m not saying that it’s possible, but I wouldn’t say that it’s impossible given a certain level of technology.
  
  Then what is it? A teapot in the sky?
  If it's a viable plan which can be realized, then how to achieve it, without killing people and creating a dictatorship? Is it possible?
  I might be wrong, but it seems to me that any effort to establish communism will eventually fail with a lot paid in vain, and many lives lost, as has happened so far.
  If that viable plan needs time to be accepted more widely, then maybe we should simply wait and try to be decent people in the meantime, instead of trying now to establish a "temporary" dictatorship actively as a way of "transition". And if the plan can be acted upon right now, then again the question is how (without resorting to violence and tyranny, of course). That question remains open to me. And it's a big one.
  
  Then what is it? A teapot in the sky?
  In such countries there was/is socialism. They only tried/trying to build communism. This is a common misconception.
  If it’s a viable plan which can be realized, then how to achieve it, without killing people and creating a dictatorship? Is it possible?
  I don't know. But I doubt that the state will give up its powers without any fight.
- My understanding is that these days people treat it more like an ideal to strive toward under current democratic systems. For instance, how would you feel about UBI being introduced under your current system of governance?
  
  Red Hat UBI? It's awesome
  *JK, but Red Hat UBI really Awesome!
- Looks like you have a lot to learn
  
  Thanks for your valuable input, you opened my eyes.
- Communism = fascism. We have plenty of historical data to support that.
  
  No. They are not equal and neither same. If you understand Italian I suggest you to search for Prof. Barbero videos on the topic. They are quite better than anything I'll be able to convey.
  Fascism:
  It's an authoritarian dictatorship happened between 1914 and 1945 in Italy. The fascist regime and ideology was strictly based on Mussolini's figure, people marched in straight lines down the streets, everyone wearing the same uniforms and Italy was a great imperialist nation (lol jk it wasn't but they quite believed it). Fascism and the fascist party stopped existing after partisans overthrew the regime. Fascism is a 20 years long dictatorship. After that there were some regimes around the world that were inspired by Mussolini such as the current ruling party Italy Fratelli d'Italia, Marine le Pen's party in France, those shitty AFD in Germany, orban's Regime, franco in Spain etc etc. They are called neofascists, because Fascism was a 20 years long regime happened in Italy between 1914 and 1945.
  Communism:
  Communism is a model of governace that's never been achieved in human history, as someone above said it's about classless, stateless, governance models. It's been around for like 200 years (the Communist Party Manifesto is from 1848), and in every country of the world there is/ has been a Communist Party and as we know they were always persecuted for being communist, stopped from going to the government and stopped from bulding a classless society when they managed to get to govern. Just see what the USA did in the last 50/60 years in every country that risked a communist government: Chile and latin America in general, Italy and so on an so forth.
  Fascism =/= communism, and if you say the contrary you just don't know how they work.
  
  What is this lunacy?
  
  Like third grade history I believe
  
  I live in the central europe and I have plenty of historical data about every country that was part of the Soviet Union being authoritarian at the same time. You probably couldn't imagine what was happening here. I don't have so much knowledge about the rest of the world, but I think I heard about some genocide and concentration camps in china recently...
  
  I was born in USSR.

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