Denmark plans to severely restrict social media use for young people
Denmark is planning to follow Australia in introducing stricter restrictions for younger teens to access social media.
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Yeah why educating kids on the dangers of social media when you can restrict them ...
I can educate my children all I want – if their peers are on Social Media nonstop, they will be too.
I don't get the point. Because their friends are on social media that absolves you from educating your kids?
bad reading comprehension
No. Kids will do what their peers do. As a parent, I have limited influence – unless I want to do other things that are detrimental in their own way like… confiscate their smartphones & ground them.
As a parent, I have limited influence
Nonsense. If there is one person that has all the influence, it's you as a parent.
confiscate their smartphones & ground them
Idk why parents think punishing their child is the only thing that works lmaooo.
How about you learn what your child is doing online and talk about it if it does something it shouldn't do. Set up a local DNS (like PiHole) and every evening, check what your child is doing. If it accesses sites it shouldn't access, talk about it. There's also plenty of software out there that lets you monitor your childs phone usage. Kid is 12 hours a day on tiktok? Install TimeLimit, restrict the time. Done.
You made the decision you have a child - now take the responsibility and stop relying on the government or companies to educate your children.
You made the decision you have a child - now take the responsibility and stop relying on the government or companies to educate your children.
"your children, your problem"? No. Raising the next generation is widely understood to be a burden shared between parents and wider society. Point in case: public schools and kindergardens are essential for modern society, and they are largely funded by taxpayer money, not by parents.
We shouldnt just hope that parents successfully fight the hydra of online dangers by doing DNS filtering & running ad blockers on all devices their children can get their hands on.
We are perfectly able to block minors from entering brothels, or from buying cigarettes and booze. Why should we not be able to do the same for internet usage?
public schools and kindergardens are essential for modern society
Yes, because those are supposed to instill essential skills like reading, calculus, history etc. They aren't supposed to tell kids "Hey kiddos being on tiktok 12 hours a day is bad don't do that" - that is your job as a parent.
We shouldnt just hope that parents successfully fight the hydra of online dangers by doing DNS filtering & running ad blockers on all devices their children can get their hands on.
You're right, we shouldn't hope - we should expect. Dumping a child into the world and not taking care of it is irresponsible beyond belief. If you can't raise a child, don't have one.
Why should we not be able to do the same for internet usage?
Because the requirements are significantly more extreme.
Blocking a child from a brothel requires a security guard to take a look at the child and maybe check the ID if he's unsure. That's it. Blocking a child from tiktok requires age verifications across the entire internet - which are then bound to an ID, probably stored somewhere and will then be used to eliminate online privacy completely.
It's also denmark planning this - so the very same country that proposes and heavily advocates for chat control. So just another case of trying to control the internet under the guise of "BuT tHiNk Of ThE cHiLdReN".
Age verification without disclosing all your private data is absolutely doable.
Platforms saying "Yeah just put in your passport data" is cheap, and "we should not block anyone's access to anything on the internet" from privacy advocates is lazy.
Age verification without disclosing all your private data is absolutely doable.
Not reliably, which is not what governments want. They want ironclad methods to determine who does what online.
and “we should not block anyone’s access to anything on the internet” from privacy advocates is lazy
Personally, I consider it significantly more lazy to have a child, not give a single flying fuck about what it does in the world and expect the entire world to raise your child - but I guess we're just having different perspectives.
not give a single flying fuck
That does it. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it? Bye.
Goodbye, maybe you can come up with good arguments in another discussion revolving around a topic you are more knowledgeable about.
Also, I hope you're not a parent. Because from what I can read and understand from your posts, you are a shit parent. :)
Nonsense. If there is one person that has all the influence, it’s you as a parent.
I'm glad for you that your children are not influenced in any way by anything other than you. My kids get influenced just by walking though the mall, especially when walking past a toy store or an ice cream place. But that part is easy to handle. When it comes to online stuff, then it is harder, unless you sit with your kids all the time. My kids are not old enough for internet things and I will try my hardest to prepare my kids, but I'm not naive to think that I can 100% make sure my kids aren't influenced by stuff online. It's a battle against billion dollar companies and it won't be easy.
I never said children will never be influenced under good parental care. That is impossible to avoid. Of course your child will be influenced by things online and offline, no question. But if you notice your child is drifting into the wrong direction, you can sit them down, talk with them and try to correct that. I know I drifted into the wrong direction as a kid but my parents still got me into a pretty successful life by raising me correctly.
It’s a battle against billion dollar companies and it won’t be easy
Nobody said having a child is easy. But you decided to have a child and now you bear the responsibility.
I never said children will never be influenced under good parental care. That is impossible to avoid.
You literately wrote "If there is one person that has all the influence, it’s you as a parent."
But you decided to have a child and now you bear the responsibility.
It really irks me that you keep saying that. I'm happy that you have been lucky with your children, but but now you shit on people that for one or another reason have children that turn out badly. There can be so many reasons why this happens and sometimes it is out of control for parents to prevent or fix it. Do you think that it is the parents full responsibility, that their 13 year old child committed suicide because of bulling?
You literately wrote “If there is one person that has all the influence, it’s you as a parent.”
Yes, because it's true. The kid spends most of it's time in your care. But that doesn't mean you can negate all the other influence. But you can and should keep track of what is happening in your childs life.
but now you shit on people that for one or another reason have children that turn out badly
I'm not really trying to shit on people, sorry if you get that impression. There are reasons why children turn out bad despite you doing your best - especially if the partner leaves and you're a single parent. It's nearly impossible to feed yourself and your child while still paying 100% attention to what it does.
However, my impression is that many people want to have children but not take care of them. That's what I see in my daily life. Kids come home from school, get something to eat and then the parents put them in front of a TV or a tablet so they can keep themselves busy while the parents do whatever. And don't get me wrong, it's not even wrong to do that every now and then. Everyone needs a pause. But in many - especially poorer - families, this is common practice and it's no surprise the kids turn out as they do.
Do you think that it is the parents full responsibility, that their 13 year old child committed suicide because of bulling?
If bullying gets to a point where it's so bad the bullied kid feels the need to kill itself, there's so many things wrong before that. It's not like a child is bullied once and immediately jumps off a building, that is a long process that goes on for weeks or months and the changes that happen to the child are noticeable to adults in the childs life. Doesn't want to go to school anymore, scared to go out etc. - if you're a somewhat attentive parent, those change are noticeable. My mum, for example, almost always ate lunch with me when I came home and talked with me about the day. If I was bullied, she would've noticed within days.
So no, they don't carry the full responsibility. But they are certainly partly responsible, even tho that might sound cruel to you.
Seems that we somewhat agree - good to know that you also think that it's not as black and white as you started out with in this discussion.