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Women working in Antarctica say they were left to fend for themselves against sexual harassers

apnews.com Women working in Antarctica say they were left to fend for themselves against sexual harassers

Many women who work at McMurdo Station, the main United States research base in Antarctica, say the isolated environment and macho culture have allowed sexual harassment and assault to flourish.

The National Science Foundation, the federal agency that oversees the U.S. Antarctic Program, published a report in 2022 in which 59% of women said they’d experienced harassment or assault while on the ice, and 72% of women said such behavior was a problem in Antarctica.

But the problem goes beyond the harassment, The Associated Press found. In reviewing court records and internal communications, and in interviews with more than a dozen current and former employees, the AP uncovered a pattern of women who said their claims of harassment or assault were minimized by their employers, often leading to them or others being put in further danger.

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Yeah, as a woman, I'd be real hesitant about taking a job out there, or any place thats more wild-west in nature (very few people and very lax regulation of any laws) and I'd sure as hell take gun tactical training before going, and always have a firearm on me.
- You have to fly through New Zealand so I'm guessing no guns are allowed.
  
  I'm sure guns are flying through no problem, just not in your handbag. Most likely in a checked bag and probably requiring a gun license.
  
  NOPE. You cannot bring guns to Antarctica.
  https://theculturetrip.com/antarctica/articles/10-weird-rules-for-traveling-in-antarctica#:~:text=Please%2C%20no%20guns,Antarctica%20is%20a%20demilitarized%20zone.
  https://www.smobserved.com/story/2021/12/27/lifestyle/the-only-gun-in-antarctica-keeps-the-peace-enforces-the-law-in-worlds-most-remote-town/6277.html
  
  Well, what I said still stands, you can fly guns through NZ no problem.
  But knowing I couldnt bring one in to Antarctica is just another reason why I wouldn't go as a woman, personally. Unable to protect myself if I need to.
  
  Well, what I said still stands, you can fly guns through NZ no problem.
  Not to antarctica.
  But knowing I couldnt bring one in to Antarctica is just another reason why I wouldn’t go as a woman, personally. Unable to protect myself if I need to.
  knowing you would require a firearm to feel safe probably indicates you wouldn't be invited in the first place, so this is less of an issue.
  
  Ohhh, the "it doesn't happen, and if it does, it doesn't matter anyway," type argument. Love those.
  Also, the user above was saying NZ would be the stopping point. Do you just have a hard time deciphering these things?
  
  the entire premise of the discussion was for the purpose of mythical people thinking they needed firearms to serve imaginary time on antarctica. someone said they'd take their gun, I pointed out no guns in Antarctica, someone said they could bring it through newzedland, and that's true, but still not to antarctica, the subject of the discussion.
  funny enough, you probably still can't bring firearms to new zealand it turns out - https://www.customs.govt.nz/personal/prohibited-and-restricted-items/firearms-and-weapons/#:~:text=You%20need%20a%20New%20Zealand,by%20the%20New%20Zealand%20Police.
  What part of the premise are you having trouble with sparky?
  
  To new Zealand is different than through New Zealand.
  The specific claim was that guns would be stopped at new Zealand. They wouldn't. They'd be stopped in Antarctica
- But that narrative doesn't support the anti gun ideology. they want everyone disarmed so the strong can once again shuffle the weak in any direction they choose. it makes them so mad that they have to think twice about sexual assault or else they get blown away. its like a condom, those convincing you that you don't need one, means you really really need one.
  edit: so mad 😎
  triple digit mad lets fucking Goooooo! 🤣
  Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that's kinda sorta a bunch fucked up. please find peace in your lives where you aren't afraid of guns because you just want to rape unopposed.
  what's the slow down? Let's hit 4 digi mad!
  
  Oh yes, how they shuffle the weak in the UK and Australia. Just weak people being shuffled around by the strong all over the place.
  
  Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that’s kinda sorta a bunch fucked up.
  guns are much more likely to be used to commit sexual violence than stop sexual violence. this entire premise is fucked up.
  https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/arms-control/gun-violence/
  https://jaapl.org/content/early/2020/02/05/JAAPL.003929-20
  https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/who-can-have-a-gun/domestic-violence-firearms/
  https://www.americanprogress.org/article/guns-and-violence-against-women/
  The impact of gun violence against women goes beyond fatal encounters. A 2016 study found that nearly 1 million women alive at that time had been shot by an intimate partner, and 4.5 million women had been threatened with a firearm.4 Firearms have long been used as a tool of power and control to instill fear and inflict abuse on women—with women of color, people in the LGBTQ community, and women with disabilities being disproportionately affected.5
  https://everytownresearch.org/report/guns-and-violence-against-women-americas-uniquely-lethal-intimate-partner-violence-problem/
  I get that you think you're some righteous crusader for women's safety but the more guns solution hasn't worked - there are more guns than people in the US; how many more guns do we need until you admit your hypothesis is wrong? What's the number, 500 million?
  20 per person? Keep in mind, the more guns there are in the population, the more domestic abusers will use them to intimidate and violate their victims. So when do we get to safety through guns?
  Make it make sense.
  
  I'm not surprised by this but it makes me wonder how many women in these instances had a gun on them. Are men more likely to have a gun than the woman? You seem more familiar with the topic than I. Is that stated in any of the articles?
  
  Who's mad again? Lol
  
  edit: so mad 😎
  They get mad when reality disagrees with them. Big mad. As in to say most of the time
  
  they get mad because it's bullshit. a stupid hypothesis backed by a bunch of fearmongering and frothed spittle.
  riddle me this, gunman: how many guns until we're 'safe'?
  we've got more guns than people. so what's it gonna take? 4 per person? 10? Do we need six billion guns so every american can count 20 in their home arsenal? Does that get us to safe?
  pretty fucking stupid premise.
  
  Your downvotes mean you like women undefended and unprotected. that’s kinda sorta a bunch fucked up. please find peace in your lives where you aren’t afraid of guns because you just want to rape unopposed.
  LOL. no, it doesnt.
  
  She specifically said “training”, which on its own immediately goes against whatever insane ideology you’re selling.
  
  I agree. I'm glad to have one.

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