Microsoft Warns That Windows 11 AI Might Install Malware On Your PC - Kotaku
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/39011502
Um.... What the f....
Lol that's amazing. I'll stick with Linux!
Me too. Linux already comes without warranty. This warning basically just says that if the user enables the AI agent all guarantees are off. They didn't bother putting safeguards in and don't want to be responsible for it.
Is windows 11 not already a malware anyway ?
Yes, but now the malware is telling you it wants to invite friends over for tea.
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Never thought I'd see the day where I'd prefer an Apple device over a Windows one. I know they have their own issues, but in terms of ai implementation and security they're miles ahead of MS.
Tbf, you're just swapping one glass of tainted punch for another. Both murder your data privacy and security.
I guess if you like Apple's form of abuse more than Microsoft's, more power to ya. It definitely isn't the escape hatch you think it is for privacy or security though, that belongs to the Penguin crew.
Privacy sure Linux has it beat. Security? Simply untrue, particularly by default, unless you put a lot of time into configuration, in not exactly sure where that narrative is from it’s completely false. macOS for example has way better app permission isolation that Linux does unless you use only flatpaks. Also the open source system scanner that gives devices a cybersecurity score that I’m forgetting the name of at the moment can be used to prove this correct without going into extremely long detail. Compare the results from macOS and Linux by default and it’s pretty solidly in macOS favor. I use both but this idea needs to stop being spread simply because people have a vendetta against closed source. I love Linux probably more than macOS but there are still reasons to like and use macOS.
Oh I know, Linux is the way, but I mean that Apple's implementation is just that smidge less intrusive since all data is processed locally rather than in some datacenter somewhere. They'll still extract whatever can make them money, no illusions there.
I think you meant OpenBSD, instead of Linux; it has the best security features of any OS.
Well to be fair, the apple one is designed well and user friendly.
(the other Corp issues still apply of course)
Apple hardware is typically more difficult to install linux on, and is therefore less useful. I mean you can do it in many cases from what I hear, but I think it's still not easy on average.
Most of the time, a MacBook is the only logical laptop choice. Gaming laptops mostly suck, either at actual gaming, or at being actual portable laptops. If they aren't portable, just spend less money on a gaming desktop. If they are portable, they suck at gaming, and if they're not MacBooks, the battery life isn't as good and/or they aren't as powerful. The best gaming on laptops is cloud gaming, and that works on MacBooks too.
Apple Intelligence isn't miles ahead of anybody. It's dead last, which is why I like it. I feel like Google and Microsoft are gonna push AI on you whether you want it or not, and that's the point. Your hardware, serving them. Additional power draw, you pay for, so they can make more money (and naturally, not give any back).
If you're gonna spend MacBook money, might as well get a Framework
My lemming on the internet, the Steam Deck costs less than a third of the price and the most expensive variant is just around half lmao
(Although I think one aspect where that argument for best laptop has holes is the used market for slim x86 devices. Apple Silicon may have advantages in terms of battery life, but software compatibility is still rough AF if you're not an artist or in music production)
I think the best choice is to get a non-gaming Windows laptop and install Linux on it.
If you don't need something super powerful then get a refurbished Thinkpad T14 or Elitebook 840 G7 from eBay or Amazon.
Or if you need more CPU, a better screen, etc get a new Omnibook (7 or above) or Ideapad (5 or above) for a Macbook like feel or a Thinkpad for repairability.
Apple Intelligence isn’t miles ahead of anybody. It’s dead last, which is why I like it.
Exactly, in the same boat with this one. It's not exactly like shoving copilot into freaking notepad.
I think the real question is, is this what Microsoft executives use internally? If they are using Windows 11, are they using the AI agent? Or do they get to opt out of it? Or are they just using Macs?
They don't seem like they're the types that are savvy enough to feel like it's a problem.
Unlike the federal workers who have one IT person per 200 people, they have 200 IT people for one person.
There actually is a version of Windows 11 that exists without any bloat, AI or any other shit (most of the system requirements are also gone) called « Windows Iot LTSC », most of its updates are security ones, and for all I've observed it even escaped some of the crappy « windows killed itself » kinda updates. Any company can get access to it.
I don't know if they use it, but they'd be dumb not to.
It's hard to believe but there exist an entire chunk of people who don't use PCs at all (Personal Computers). Being executive level is absolutely rich enough to do that. You've someone else to do all of that.
I think they are just fed up with maintaining their own kernel. At this point it honestly seems like they are trying to get people to switch. If they now just release all their code under GPL then the linux nerds can fully support all windows software to allow a seamless transition.
Why bother playing by their rules? We have Wine. We have proton. We can build our own "windows compatible execution environment", with Blackjack, and Hookers, and better compatibility, and better efficiency, and...
Yes that would be cool, but lots of windows software still doesnt run because it has some detection stuff built in that blocks wine. To solve that the wine devs would need access to the original source.
warns
threatens
So why use it?
sunk cost fallacy
Or the effort to migrate is daunting.
Because they will give you no choice.
Laughs in Linux Mint
How long until the AI learns to delete system32 at random?
So, the AI chief dude is saying he doesn't understand why people don't want AI.... do they even read their own docs?
Here's what I see happening, probably very soon when this AI thing is released: Some malware developer writes an 'AI installer' that activates this thing, sets itself up as an AI on your PC, passes through whatever query you have to free ChatGPT, and then uses AI access to steal all your stuff or track you. Because if the AI model has access to your data, so does any support code related to that model.
Play this KennyChesneySongMp3.exe now!
Ok going off the script a little.
I actually just had the brain wave to start up my PC House Doctor service again.
Dollar signs appear in my eyes when I remember back to the XP RPC vulnerability and how much business I did from that. This seriously, seriously sounds reminiscent of that - except the threat is directly inside the OS now it's baked in.
like data exfiltration or ... installation
Bad actors are going to have a fucking field day.
I will never understand why the model — any model in any environment — is allowed to execute commands.
There is exactly one situation in which it sort of makes sense: Copilot integrated with VS Code, running repo-specific commands like
yarn build, with direct human oversight.That's it. That's the only situation.
is there any value in saving like ten keystrokes it would take to type the command yourself while introducing the ability for an AI to hallucinate your code to death
And thank God it can do that too because "copilot build my project" saves me the intense labor and frustration of hitting F7 on my keyboard
jenkins?
Silence! No questions! You will be assimilated!
To try to make it useful and needed somehow, when in reality it isn't.