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Real talk.
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Men like Bordain die because we let men like Kissinger live.
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Folks like this are all over America, unfortunately. Hell, some of the fiercest and most vocal colonial defenders are the select handful of refugees permitted to migrate to the US and join in the looting.
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Part of Columbus being raised to the level he was is because of the persecution of Italian immigrants in the USA.
Some might say Columbus was a DEI hire (similar to confederate statues)
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That last sentence hits hard. Being from South Florida and seeing Cubans pull up the ladder behind them was kinda painful.
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The rat the turncoat the snitch. All have a certain fervor to them.
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this is why i hate when people throw the “colonizer” insult around like a frisbee….
it takes away from the horrors of what they’ve done, and disrespects their victims.
it’s like if someone scuffs your shoe and you call them an SS guard at Auschwitz.
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this is why i hate when people throw the “colonizer” insult around like a frisbee….
Do you have an example of this?
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just hit the search on Lemmy, type in “colonizer” and limit it to comments
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here’s one: https://lemm.ee/comment/8151410
in this example, being insensitive to racial slurs is terrible, but not as bad as invading and occupying a region, enslaving the native population, and cutting off body parts of their children if they don’t meet their work quota gathering chocolate beans for the day….
in this case explaining what they say they don’t understand is probably better than saying “ok colonizer”
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It's definitely reactionary but also understandable since most people that were beneficiaries of colonial exploitation supported the enterprise despite the human cost.
It's an odd one to use today no doubt but we live in a world where those of European ancestary have held certain advantages due to the legacy of that system. It would be genuinely remiss in a truly post racial society but, since we're not there, I see where it comes from.
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that’s not what reactionary means… reactionary comes from the French revolution and referred to people who wanted to preserve or later restore the monarchy. Now it’s pretty much anyone anti-progress or anti-revolution… or anti-communist to the communists.
“make america great again” is an extremely reactionary slogan, for example.
when i first heard it i thought it was more like “over reactive” too.
i see where it comes from too but it’s, well it just bugs me. it’s a mostly online thing, though…
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Still a great day to remember Henry Kissinger is dead.
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Oh thank you for the smile! Might actually look up his current resident/public bathroom. Him and Cheney needs some fertilization.
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We better check the Kissinger is dead. Don’t want to worry about Kissinger being a lich.
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My indigenous ass watching the lefty priveledged white kids calling other white kids colonizers.
Funniest one was the white woman who was debating that my male privilege is larger than my native blood so fuck me along with all the white men. I have white ladies telling my tan ass that I have privilege over them.
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I mean, in some ways, but they can still have you pantone-murdered by the nearest state enforcer at will.
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Women who moan about that shit are just sexists. Plain and simple.
Male privilege isnt a real thing. Its just rich guys that we all carry the can for. In the real world, we are just as put upon as any other. When complain about social pressures and stigmas, meanwhile men complain about being force to go to war. All the countries below force men to war. To fight, to die. And you just know that if any other countries found themselves in war, theyd be pulling men in with a hover. And in the case of Switzerland, that country had a referendum on forced conscription. And women, a lot of women, voted to keep it even though it didnt affect them.
Switzerland
Austria
Greece
Turkey
Cyprus
Finland
Denmark
Israel* (men and women serve, but women have exemptions and escape routes men don’t have, so some classify this as quasi male-only)
Egypt
Iran
Syria
Jordan (inactive but law exists)
Algeria
Tunisia
Morocco (reinstated in 2018)
South Korea
North Korea
Singapore
Taiwan
Thailand
Mongolia
Uzbekistan
Turkmenistan
Myanmar
Vietnam (rarely enforced on women)
Angola
Mozambique
Eritrea (both genders technically, but female service is inconsistently applied; often considered male-dominant)
Brazil
Colombia
Bolivia
Paraguay
Chile (law applies to both, but in practice conscription is overwhelmingly male)
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Yo loser (and the losers who upvoted), male privilege doesn't mean all men have easy lives (they don't), it means they don't face systemic disadvantages simply due to being men, while women have to face those disadvantages simply due to being women.
Conscription doesn't magically erase pay gaps, rates of violence, hiring and promotion discrimination, political under representation, domestic labor imbalance, femicides, etc. Sure, some men might be conscripted for a year, and it sucks, but women deal with this shit every single day of their lives.
Now on to the "women voted for it" argument… ignoring the fact that all women can only vote in Switzerland since 1990 so it might not be the best country for your example, pray tell who created and maintains the draft on an institutional level? That shit was built, ran, maintained for generations by men in male-dominated governments, militaries, cultures. But because women voted in one recent referendum it's their fault? Historical amnesia or incel redditor type comment, choose one (it's the latter, we know what you are).
Your point hangs on to a Wikipedia list of some men oppressing some other men in 20-30 countries (it's men running conscription: the patriarchy affects men too dingbat), while sexism is daily in every single country in the world. And let's be clear, rich men aren't the only beneficiaries of male privilege, it's also simple things like not being dismissed as emotional, not being talked over, not being judged for your body count, not fearing sexual assault on your walk back home, you don't need to be rich to benefit from those.
Back to conflicts and wars. Take a guess who the #1 victims of the long term effects of war are, here's an academic source. To give a recent example, 70% of the dead in Gaza are women and children. And as for the ones who survive… you can probably guess what happens to women during war times and post-war reconstruction efforts, dying on the frontlines might actually be a better fate. You can see it in Ukraine already, women are losing their rights and ability to work, and it'll only get worse as the war keeps going (and orders of magnitudes worse if they lose the war).
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privilege is complicated on many axes and always unjust fucked up bullshit we should take care to not hold over one another
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i don't have any privilege because I'm also marginalized on this other axis!
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You seem pretty well informed, but you gotta realize male privilege is absolutely a real thing. I say this as someone that currently benefits from it.
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with your bare hands
Belgium took care of that one preemptively.
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You're being flippant and know better, but I think it's important to state the obvious and add some nuance. Not to defend the Belgians, but to emphasize the central role capitalism played in the death of up to 15 million people, and how corporate-colonialism never really ended.
Arguably, the worst atrocities in Congo occured when it was the private property of king Leopold, who granted vast concessions to private companies with international investors. For example: the Anglo-Belgian India Rubber Company. They declared bankrupcy in Belgium, and refounded themselves as Abir Company in the Congo Free State, so they could avoid paying tax and avoid Belgian regulation. A corporation moving production/extraction/exploitation abroad, relocating their headquarters to a third country, so they can avoid tax and regulation....
The DRC officially became independent of Belgium in 1960, but colonial corporate rule and influence never truly ended. King Leopold founded Compagnie du Katanga, Compagnie du Katanga became Union Minière du Haut-Katanga, Union Minière du Haut-Katanga became Umicore. Umicore is very active in Congo to this day. A few years ago Elon Musk signed a deal with them to help supply Congolese cobalt for Tesla cars.
The soon to be trillionaire fascist son of a man who owned an emerald mine in a former British colony, runs a company that produces cars that include cobalt mined by a company that helped kill 15 million people in the Congo Free State.
People prefer to look the other way, then act surprised when the chickens come home to roost.
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That was good and dark 👏
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Define "coloniser."
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Like the thagomizer but for the colon.
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Lol, spikey tail in my butt is the meaning of life.
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Whenever something bad happens to France, I remember how they managed to fuck up Haiti after they got their independence, then I stop feeling any sympathy for the french
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There are conservative French and there are Leftist French. Not everyone is responsible. Today, there are much worse people than the French to be mad about.
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The french nowadays don't have anything in common with the french from the past, except... you know... speaking french.
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France is still exploiting former colonies
https://jacobin.com/2023/12/france-africa-empire-neocolonialism-domestic-far-right-repression-elites
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One reason why Columbus was so awful and wanting to take every scrap of precious metal was because he was in debt up to his eyeballs for his little adventure, including with some folks of the leg breaking kind, and knew he had to pay it back when he returned.
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Learning about the Dutch's atrocities in Africa makes me feel slightly better about my country's history.
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Fuck yeah, get those Arabs out of Africa.
EDIT: Sorry. Wrong colonisers I guess.
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Yeah, man, those Egyptians who lived in the Nile Valley for millennia should fuck off. Imagine speaking Arabic amirite? Or Sudanese, I'm sure all those black Africans are actually from the Arabian Peninsula.
PS: Please learn history before you say dumb shit.
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The real quote is almost better
Pretty much the same message, really.