Why Does Schumer Keep Trying to Cave?
Why Does Schumer Keep Trying to Cave? - The American Prospect
How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Democratic party establishment is the most pathetic group of people...
I'd say the Democratic voters who don't primary their asses out are close competition.
Because that's what he does best? I hate the whole "both sides" thing, but the Dems need to come to Jesus on those in their party who ushered in the Trump era without a fight.
he constantly wants to reach across the aisle to nazis. ain't no both sides about it, those ten people at a dinner table with a nazi are all nazis.
Because he's a democrat.
The true function of the Democrat party in American politics is to dilute and dissipate energy which could instead go to build & maintain a real opposition party.
I'll genuinely be ecstatic when this turd is voted out. These dual allegiance fake lefties are a stain on humanity. What a disgrace of a human being.
Pelosi's down. Schumer needs to go next.
Pelosi was (sadly) one of the best establishment Democrats. At least she was competent and had a handful of progressive views. Schumer has always been nothing but pure trash. In any case, yeah, they all gotta go somehow.
I liken the traditional Democrats to the secret battle plan from Black Adder 4.
Capt. E. Blackadder: "We'll all get out of our trenches and slowly march across No Man's Land?" Capt. Darling: "How do you know that? It's classified information!" Capt. E. Blackadder: "It's what we did the last time, the time before and the previous seventeen times before that. Gen. Sir A.H. Melchitt: "PRECISELY! The absolute last thing the watchful Hun will suspect is us doing this again and thus we will take him completely by surprise!"
He's not caving. He's bending over, cause he's a removed
Trying to?
This is a weird article
His proposal pushes the healthcare debate into the height of midterm season, all while demonstrating an eagerness to reopen the government. He's eliminating republican talking points regarding the shutdown while forcing the debate on the campaign trail. This is a smart move.
All caving does is make Dems look weak against Trump. Again. No one gives a shit if it’s “good politics” or “strategy”.
There’s no reason to cave. GOP controls the govt. Make them nuke the filibuster if they want the govt open.
There will be no debate. It will be extended until after the election. Democrats will try to make it a campaign issue, but since there will be no shutdown forcing attention, Republicans will just ignore it. Like they did up until the shutdown happened. People may be vaguely worried, but it won't be a thing that's happening now so they'll just assume something will be done, and the extension now will condition them to believe that.
If you think fighting about politics now is not important to the midterms, then demonstrating willingness to open the government and eliminating Republican taking points is also unimportant. However solidifying that Republicans are powerful and Democrats will always roll over is important. Not just for elections, but for standing up against fascism now.
Chuck Schumer is not and has not ever been an electoral genius.
The point is that this is fighting now, and setting up for the midterms
If the main issue with the shutdown are healthcare subsidies, this will end the shutdown and provide those subsidies for the next year. If midterms go well for the dems, it's a win for the long term. If the midterms don't go well for the dems, we're in the exact same position in one year as we are today, which sucks.
Yeah, worked out really well when he caved this spring so we could force the debate during the current elections so he can cave again to push it off to next year's elections.
Totally not kicking the can down the road.
No, it isn't. Republican talking points don't matter, they'll just come up with new talking points, because they're all bullshit anyway. They've brazenly violated the law and are rounding people up off the streets, now is the time to play hardball and refuse to cooperate. The republicans are currently fighting to avoid giving people SNAP benefits, let them, and let's see how that strategy plays out for them at the ballot box.
In terms of optics, what's important is to demonstrate that what the Republicans are doing isn't normal and to make sure there's actual daylight between their positions and those of the Democrats. Caving to their demands will only normalize what they're doing and cause people to give up on going out to vote altogether.
I swear, it doesn't seem to matter to centrists how many times their electoral strategies are proven wrong in practice, because this whole, "move to the right to attract swing voters" is just accepted dogmatically. If that nonsense worked, Trump would never have gotten elected either time.
They punted Trumps prosecutions for the same reason. It's a stupid plan.
The plan doesn't work all the time - there's always risk
That being said, punting on the prosecutions is the most disappointing and disgusting thing that led trump to power. They relied on the idea that voters wouldn't elect him simply based on j6 and the indictments, but underestimated the stupidity of voters and the way trump manipulates his base. Having bootlickers in places of power to slow it all down certainly did not help.
Regardless, a bunch of dems caved to the budget without the extension of subsidies, so none of it matters anyway
Remember, Chuck is trying to please "the Baileys," a fantasy median couple who wouldn't vote for him if they could and generally oppose Democratic policies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dijMKwZMU2Q
Has he been tested for schizophrenia? I am legitimately curious because he has written books about these people.
If you actually believe this instead of just accepting the fact we can look at his public campaign contributions donors and see who he is really listening to, then good luck in the world bruh
https://www.thedailybeast.com/schumer-mocked-for-mentioning-imaginary-couple-hundreds-of-times/
You look at (what he believes to be) two existing requirements for him to hold power and prestige and insist that it can only be one, ignoring that most people base their decisions on multiple factors.
Schumer takes his donor's requests and tries to spin it into palatability for the mythical Baileys. That one is a delusion is irrelevant when we're discussing why a senile dinosaur does what he does. He thinks he must appeal to both to win elections and so he tries to do both.