BC Bill M-216: Canada's worst anti-trans legislation thus far, but is it Canadian?
BC Bill M-216: Canada's worst anti-trans legislation ever • Celeste Trianon
Motherfuckers. Unfortunatey this line of attack is likely to intensify, not merely from conservative opportunists applying the American playbook to win elecrions, but also because the Alberta sovereignty movement, funded by the US oil industry, would love to have pipelines built to the west coast. What better way to achieve that than creating conservative political alignment in BC.
They want you to be anti-science and anti-empathy because they want you to sign off on your own oppression. Chuds have accepted that reality conflicts with their worldview, so they have chosen unreality as their only platform.
This is from the OneBC party, which only has 2 members, and nobody even voted for this party in the first place. These are formerly conservative MPs which were kicked out of their own party.
Now, the conservative party is pretty anti-transgender itself, but I would not really consider anything the OneBC party brings forward to be news-worthy unless it's picked up by at least one other party.
The BC Conservatives voted for this bill, ONEBC's members were lurking behind the big tent party thanks to archaic first-past-the-post hiding transparency from the public's view.
ah I didn't realize this. I stand corrected.
do with think its ok for kids to take HRT? kids mean anyone under 18 btw. and im not saying they can't be transgender, i support them being trans 100%, just don't know if its harmful to take HRT before being an adult.
From, I don't know, 14+? 16+? Sure? By the time we start to recognize children's medical autonomy, I can't imagine why we would t
The main issue here is that to be an adult, you have to go through puberty.
The problem is that HRT is meant to replace one's expected puberty with the opposite puberty.
So for "best results" you have to start HRT induced/regulated puberty before the expected puberty starts.
Starting HRT after puberty does not reverse the effects of the puberty one has undergone, hence the focus on puberty blockers and starting before puberty.
Starting before puberty starts means starting when they are literally biological kids.
This is where the conflict is. Should literal kids undergo HRT puberty or should they go through their expected puberty, become an adult, and then gain the mental capacity and autonomy to make the decision to undergo HRT but without meeting desired results.
Some say use puberty blockers until 18 and then allow people to make a decision. I disagree, the number of times the Earth goes around the Sun does not turn a child into a consenting adult, puberty does.
The ask is to have consent with the weight of post-puberty but express it while in pre-puberty for a decision on puberty.
I disagree that this is possible. It looks like these MPs disagree as well.
HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) is not some unnatural medication treatment. It’s literally just estrogen or testosterone depending on which gender is being transitioned to. Everyone has testosterone and estrogen. Kids go through puberty as a normal part of growing up.
Typical puberty is not dangerous and HRT causes the same kind of puberty meaning it’s not dangerous
HRT induced puberty is the exact same as typical puberty.
I think the main question is consent, who is consenting and the legality of it along with liability.
The question is a legal question and what is consent along with what is the responsiblity or liability of the doctor.
Typical medicines are not natural, but are legal because the consenting party is the adult on behalf of the child and recommended by the doctor.
For medicine, diagnosis and treatment are done determined by external actors.
Feel unwell -> cause determined from outside perspective -> solution prescribed from external perspective -> feed back from patient.
I think for HRT, it's more murky legally. For transition it's more self reported.
Feel unwell -> self diagnosis -> self prescription -> reporting to oneself
Gender dysphoria is being removed as a diagnosis so external diagnosis by a doc and prescription based on said diagnosis cannot be done.
And the child in question consents, not the parent.
The way medicine has legally operated is not reflected in transition.
If transition was possible without medical aid, it would be different. But it is not possible for humans to physically transition, unlike other species who can.
— the same means by which Alberta’s UCP is currently attempting to commit genocide against trans youth.
The fuck is this rhetoric. That's not what genocide means. Let's not be stupid and hyperbolic.